On 2023/08/07 21:37:56 Jarek Potiuk wrote: > I think it's a great idea. > > Though I think the scope of it is probably a bit too open-ended. I > think the right thing to do here is not "let's have guilds" but "let's > make it easy to discover, join and participate in those guilds we have > (and create new ones)".
The intended scope of these guilds is to provide a skill based vector for identifying opportunities to contribute. Ideally the function of these guilds would be to give new volunteers a way to navigate the foundation and find opportunities to contribute to any project as long as it's in their wheelhouse, as well as to provide members with ways to centralize the solutions to problems they've already solved. > I think we already have some guilds, but they are not easy to discover > and understand that they are actually there already. Those are just a > few I participate in: > > * bui...@apache.org > * legal-disc...@apache.org > * plann...@apachecon.com > * public-affairs-priv...@apache.org > * bo...@apache.org > > Those are all really the "guilds" you are talking about - people > interested in the subjects that often exchange information about the > area they are interested in. > Probably there are more I am not aware of / not participating in. I'm aware of those but I'm thinking about groups like webdesign@, uiuxdesign@, writers@, graphicdesign@, etc. builds@ is a great start IMO, in fact it's what this entire model is based on. I'm proposing that we try to do it several more times for other skills. Ideally these are meant to connect opportunities to people as well as provide a sort of cross project expertise / perspective, like the builds@ group does. > My question is - are those easy to find? Do members/committers who are > not members know they can join and participate in them ? Do they know > how to discover them among the few hundreds mailing lists they can > subscribe to? > > I am not sure. > > It took me personally a number of months to discover some of those and > realise that I can be (possibly?) helpful in those groups and that > there are things that are interesting there for me. Some of those I > had no idea about that it's ok for me to subscribe to (board@ which I > learned about when I was appointed as board candidate, planners@ when > I was thinking "should we make another conference in EU?" - which I am > now one of the chairs. Maybe that's ok. But maybe not - maybe we need > something to advertise and publish those existing guilds to everyone > in the ASF. Not sure. There is a balance on spamming people and > passing them relevant information, so it's easy to "over-do" it. > > So maybe (just maybe?) the scope of this idea should be "how do we > make it easier for everyone to discover, join and participate in those > guilds that are already there and encourage other guilds to be > created" ? I'm not sure about advertising these guilds to members as I'd imagined this as an entry vector for new contributors. It would be easier to direct people to the foundation to do things if we had organized groups that could put people in touch with opportunities to contribute directly. > Just my 3 cents, > > J. > > On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 8:06 PM Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > On Mon, Aug 7, 2023, at 20:01, Drew Foulks wrote: > > > Hi All! > > > > > > I'd like to submit an idea for an effort that I'd like to undertake / see > > > undertaken here at the foundation -- I've taken to calling them guilds for > > > lack of a better name, which are essentially project independent expert > > > groups that help in a specific capacity (builds, writing, websites, etc) > > > to > > > help elevate solutions from the TLP level to the Foundation level. > > > > > > Feedback is appreciated. > > > > I love this idea. I was often thinking "I would like to do $x" but did not > > know what project would need this skill at this point. This could be fun. > > > > Christian > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
