Out of those, I'd encourage everyone to also take a look at the advisors
which I think if we collectively execute it right, might make a big
difference on how people are perceiving the ASF.

I personally would like that quite a number of people who are active
members will take on the "advisors" role in some of the PMCs eventually
(and I personally definitely am going to pick a project or two and offer my
help).

In the meantime:

* you can help with clarifying (proposing or commenting) some of the "whys"
(I.e. adding a bit more context and starting points for the advisors to
help explain some of the red-flags to other projects)
https://github.com/apache/comdev-working-groups/tree/main/wg-advisors/why .
We have a few of those - I just made a draft proposal on another
https://github.com/apache/comdev-working-groups/pull/35
* signing up to become an advisor:
https://github.com/apache/comdev-working-groups/blob/main/wg-advisors/advisors.md
* possibly starting to advise projects that you would like to, even today

J..



On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 12:20 AM Paulo Motta <pa...@apache.org> wrote:

> I would like to help in the badging working group but I’m currently on
> vacation. I will follow-up in 4 weeks or less. I will join efforts if
> someone else takes on some initial work before then.
>
> On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 at 11:07 Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
>
> > A month or so ago I started pitching workgroups as a way to organize and
> > make progress on the many pain points around the Foundation.
> >
> > We’ve made a little progress since then, but not a lot of follow-up.
> >
> > The only way that we’re going to have success here is if we build this
> > thing together, and focus on progress, rather than perfection. So I want
> to
> > encourage each of you to think about what single task you can accomplish
> in
> > one of these working groups (or, even better, what’s your idea for
> another
> > group?) in the coming months.
> >
> > So far, here’s what we have:
> >
> > A top-level web page talking about the WGs:
> > https://community.apache.org/workinggroups/
> > 7 proposed WGs:
> >
> > wg-wg - Defining how working groups work, in general.
> > wg-advisors - Advising PMCs on best practice
> > wg-badging - Creation and maintenance of an accomplishment badging system
> > wg-social - Orchestrating local gathering of Apache enthusiasts
> > wg-social-media - Social media
> > wg-website - Maintenance and improvement of the website
> > wg-welcome - Helping projects, and the ASF in general, be more welcoming
> >
> > There was a great deal of discussion on the Advisors WG, but the majority
> > of that was around naming, rather than actually advising projects. I
> think
> > that this is the WG where we can have the highest impact on the
> Foundation
> > as a whole, and I’d really like to see some folks stepping up to do this
> > work, in whatever small ways you can.
> >
> > I also want to encourage each of you to take ownership of this. This
> isn’t
> > *my* effort. It’s ours, collectively, and we must share the ownership of
> it
> > if we’re going to make any progress. If any of you wants to take a more
> > proactive position in any of these WGs, please step forward and do it.
> You
> > don’t need anyone’s permission.
> >
> > As for myself, I am kind of in stealth mode as an Advisor on a couple of
> > projects, and am working on the website as I have time. But this is going
> > to take all of us.
> >
> > —
> > Rich Bowen
> > rbo...@rcbowen.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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