Offline happens! I think by default nobody needs ANY of our APIs but the transition to that thinking will be the trick.
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Michal Mocny <mmo...@chromium.org> wrote: > Hmm, but then the versioning of the core plugins is tied to the version of > your cordova-cli tool at install time? > > I'm not opposed to installing cordova-core plugins by default which can > optionally be used as a fallback when or something, but I'm not sure that > every app you create should by default include those. You are right, this > is worthy of a longer discussion. > > (p.s. who goes offline?) > > -Michal > > > On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote: > >> Good question. >> >> My intuition is saying for as long as 3.x is around we preload w/ core >> plugins. We'll do as such w/ the PhoneGap distribution to minimize >> pain. Once ppl are used to the tools they'll be asking for us to >> default to none. >> >> My thoughts where that we'd start that way w/ Cordova but thats open too. >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Andrew Grieve <agri...@chromium.org> >> wrote: >> > Yep, my biggest concern is that we are able to use CLI but still work >> > against master. I think braden's ask covers that though. >> > >> > What good is working offline if you have no plugins? Are you suggesting >> > that we also include some set of plugins inside of cordova-cli? >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote: >> > >> >> It big. Certainly would be more efficient to lazy load, and cache so >> >> offline works. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Gord Tanner <gtan...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > There was some issues over download size for our cli, any idea what >> the >> >> size of all the platforms are? >> >> > >> >> > Sent from my iPhone >> >> > >> >> > On 2013-03-22, at 1:42 PM, Braden Shepherdson <bra...@chromium.org> >> >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> I'm content to have the vendoring, it has some advantages as you >> wrote. >> >> >> >> >> >> However, I would also very much like to add a platform that's running >> >> from >> >> >> somewhere on my local disk, as I described in my feature request in >> the >> >> doc. >> >> >> >> >> >> So I propose a flag like cordova platform add android >> >> >> --target=../../cordova-android where that local directory can have >> >> >> whatever locally patched code I want. >> >> >> >> >> >> Braden >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> Right now we put the release of Cordova into the npm package for >> >> >>> cordova-cli and we version lock the two. (Codova/CLI 2.5.x === >> >> >>> Cordova/Platform 2.5.latest). >> >> >>> >> >> >>> We did this because: >> >> >>> >> >> >>> - has to work offline >> >> >>> - cannot have a Git dep to do development >> >> >>> - issue tracking locked to the real version of Cordova >> >> >>> >> >> >>> We can solve all these issues. The code to do that isn't really a >> huge >> >> >>> deal. But to add it we gain very little that isn't already achieved >> by >> >> >>> vendoring. I'd like for us to be aware the current can be improved >> but >> >> >>> its low priority compared to, say, ripple and plugin integration. >> >> >>> >> >> >>