+1 to the sanity plea of devgeek Tommy Also, if it didn't happen on this list, .... 'Consensus' should always be tracked back to a thread here, regardless of meetings, hangouts, irc, bbs, ...
@purplecabbage risingj.com On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 1:48 PM, tommy-carlos Williams <to...@devgeeks.org>wrote: > Sorry, but as someone that helps users everyday, the almost "it's alpha, > they shoulda seen it coming" tone of this is a bit upsetting. > > It reminds me of before the deprecation policy, etc when PhoneGap would > completely break everything whenever a new version came out. > > I feel like we have come a long way since then (with a ways still to go, > no question about it). I would hate to be the one in IRC and on the Google > Group list having to explain this to everyone using the cli. > > I was under the impression that the cli was "shipping" now, not just a > little side thing. I know that quite a few people are using it for real > apps (myself included). If that is true, then we have a duty to at least > think very carefully before breaking something and come up with a good plan > for easing that transition. > > - tommy > > On 10/04/2013, at 1:40, Braden Shepherdson <bra...@chromium.org> wrote: > > > This mailing list post is, or will shortly be, indexed by Google and > > others. Any newcomers will see the new docs and create new projects. > > > > As I mentioned on IRC, existing users are either accepting or ignoring > the > > "alpha" warnings that this software is new and under heavy development, > and > > if they want to jump on it early they're going to have to expect some > pain. > > > > That said, I don't really know of any better way to socialize it. Is > there > > anywhere where a brief blog post on this would make sense? > > > > I don't know how many people are using these tools and not on the mailing > > list, though certainly some turn up on IRC occasionally. > > > > Braden > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Filip Maj <f...@adobe.com> wrote: > > > >> How will we communicate this change to our existing users? > >> > >> On 4/9/13 5:22 PM, "Braden Shepherdson" <bra...@chromium.org> wrote: > >> > >>> I've just pushed a change to the future branch that changes the > directory > >>> structure to: > >>> > >>> app/ > >>> merges/ > >>> android/ > >>> ios/ > >>> www/ > >>> config.xml > >>> > >>> As was discussed at our video conference meeting a couple of weeks ago, > >>> this has a number of advantages: > >>> - config.xml is no longer in the www/ directory > >>> - One can easily version control the whole app/ directory, and get > their > >>> web assets, merges and so on into the repo. > >>> - That repo can contain additional information: a README.md, > supplementary > >>> documentation, tests, whatever. The CLI will ignore anything outside of > >>> the > >>> merges and www directories. > >>> > >>> > >>> The downside is that this is a breaking change: running the new > version of > >>> the tools on an old project will fail (but I think in a harmless way) > >>> until > >>> you rearrange the directories. You can do that with the following > >>> commands: > >>> > >>> $ mkdir app > >>> $ mv www/config.xml app > >>> $ mv www app > >>> $ mv merges app > >>> > >>> All docs and tests are updated as well. Any problems should be > reported on > >>> JIRA and assigned to me. > >>> > >>> Braden > >> > >> >
