currently, that is correct. We officially support 5.0+ and playbook. This will need to be revised once this has been decided on.
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Marcel Kinard <[email protected]> wrote: > Yup, that is entirely fair. And it's the same solution suggested to our > friends in Asia that wanted to run on iOS 4.3. > > So if that is how we address older OS's, then it would seem documenting > which older Cordova supports the older OS's would be needed. Then users > could figure out how far back in history to go to find the Cordova that > does what they need. > > I'm looking at > http://cordova.apache.org/docs/en/2.7.0/guide_getting-started_blackberry_index.md.htmland > it says that BB 5.0 and up is supported, including Playbook. That's not > accurate, is it? > > The Getting Started guides for iOS and Android are nice and clear on this > topic. > > -- Marcel Kinard > > On May 13, 2013, at 4:41 PM, Lorin Beer <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Absolutely Marcel, > > > > although, the impetus behind dropping BB is not the usage numbers, but > the > > lack of interest in future support beyond maintenance. We want our > efforts > > to go towards BB10 development. > > > > My understanding is that older blackberry's are hugely popular devices in > > countries we may not immediately consider, like Nigeria. > > > > I think the important thing to take away is that users wanting to develop > > apps for older generation BlackBerry devices will still be able to, just > > not with Cordova 3.0 +. > > > > - Lorin > > > > > > On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Marcel Kinard <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> While I'm as happy as the next person to see old versions go away, > perhaps > >> something else should be considered when making these decisions: country > >> usage may not reflect global averages. > >> > >> For example, I recently was in discussion with some folks in a large > Asia > >> country regarding iOS 4.3. Apparently iOS 4.3 is much more widely used > >> there than in North America / Europe, it's not a rounding error. As it > was > >> explained to me, it is common for users to not upgrade the OS on their > >> phones there to the latest & greatest, it's part of the user behavior / > >> culture. > >> > >> So the relavant question I'd ask is how popular is BB7 in someplace like > >> Canada? According to > >> http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_os-CA-monthly-201305-201305-bar the > >> total BB usage looks to currently be around 10%. It's unclear what > portion > >> is BB6 vs BB7 vs BB10. Are we OK with dropping that population? > >> > >> Our 5% threshold may be hiding some of the story when we look only at a > >> single global number. > >> > >> -- Marcel Kinard > >> > >> On May 9, 2013, at 4:32 PM, Filip Maj <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> +1 sunsetting BB7 > >>> > >>> On 5/8/13 8:58 AM, "Don Coleman" <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I'd be happy to see BB7 go away. It seems like 3.0 could drop > support, > >>>> especially if BlackBerry is concentrating on 10 and not releasing > >> webworks > >>>> updates. > >>>> > >>>> I have a client asking for support BB7 along with Android and iOS. > This > >>>> probably means that I have a cordova-cli project and a separate BB7 > >> build > >>>> and keep BB7 on PhoneGap 2.x. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Bryan Higgins > >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> It is fair to say that our team is focused solely on BB10. The > WebWorks > >>>>> SDK > >>>>> for BBOS itself has no future planned releases. > >>>>> > >>>>> One point I should clear up is the new blackberry10 platform code > we're > >>>>> introducing does not cover PlayBook as well. The PlayBook runs > >> TabletOS, > >>>>> which while built on qnx does not as of yet have binary compatibility > >>>>> with > >>>>> BB10. Our CEO has said BB10 for PlayBook is in development, but there > >>>>> have > >>>>> been no official announcements regarding a release. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Lorin Beer < > [email protected] > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Don's question regarding a BB7 roadmap yesterday made me realize > that > >>>>> we > >>>>>> don't have one. Concentrating on BB10/Playbook has caused us ignore > >>>>> BB7. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> A little while ago, BB7 was discussed in terms of sending her off to > >>>>> the > >>>>>> farm/attic/(silicon afterlife). The decision was reached that we > >>>>> should > >>>>>> keep up support. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I believe BlackBerry's stance is that they are not interested in > >>>>>> maintaining the BB7 Cordova implementation. Ken, Bryan, jump in here > >>>>> and > >>>>>> correct me if I'm wrong. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> There is a lot of work involved in getting BB7 to the 3.0.0 cli > stage, > >>>>> and > >>>>>> if the plan is to drop support for the platform entirely within the > >>>>> next > >>>>> 6 > >>>>>> months, I don't see that this work is justified. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Deprecation policy is 3 releases now, which means 3.1.0 is the > >>>>> soonest we > >>>>>> can drop it. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Given that : > >>>>>> - Brett on PhoneGap build has described the BB7 usage statistic as > >>>>> "noise" > >>>>>> - no new jira tickets are submitted for BB7 unless it's by our team > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I propose that we : > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 1. keep BB7 pre-cli maintenance mode regardless of how many releases > >>>>> it > >>>>>> sticks around for > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 2. announce BB7 deprecation and drop BB7 before the 3.0.0 release > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The reasoning for 2 is to not pollute the 3.0 release with legacy > code > >>>>>> which is not CLI compliant. I realize that this contravenes our > >>>>> deprecation > >>>>>> policy, but I think the level of interest in BB7 may let us get away > >>>>> with > >>>>>> it. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> - Lorin > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >> > >> > >
