So what's the decision here? Out of core right? (Since it hasn't been put back in, for iOS) So I can remove CDVLogger from config.xml in the template...
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 11:40 PM, David Pfahler <[email protected]>wrote: > I'd remove it from the core but have the resulting plugin installed by > default. This way you have best of both worlds, the pragmatist's default > and the purist's minimalism. > — > Sent from mobile > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Steven Gill <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > +1 to making it a platform dependency and keeping it as a plugin. > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Brian LeRoux <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I love that idea. Makes transitioning easy. > >> On Jul 2, 2013 1:38 PM, "Michal Mocny" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > perhaps platforms should support plugin dependencies? > >> > > >> > > >> > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Andrew Grieve <[email protected]> > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> > > Tyler - remote web inspector works for iOS 6 on device, not just in > the > >> > > simulator. > >> > > > >> > > I removed the logger since it got moved to the > cordova-plugin-console > >> > repo. > >> > > To be clear, is the proposal here to delete that repo? > >> > > > >> > > I'd like to see it remain *not* in core only because it can be > written > >> > as a > >> > > plugin. Let's just have it installed by default by CLI? > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Tyler Wilson < > >> [email protected] > >> > > >wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > Another view: what percentage of developers use the console.log > API > >> > > during > >> > > > development? I would think that the vast majority do. So why add a > >> step > >> > > for > >> > > > a feature that most developers use or need? My Cordova work has > been > >> > > mostly > >> > > > done on-device, since I am using a custom plug-in that requires > the > >> > > > hardware. So until there is a way to debug the JS on-device, I am > >> > highly > >> > > > dependent on the console.log functionality. > >> > > > > >> > > > So basically +1 keep in core for me. > >> > > > > >> > > > Thank you, > >> > > > Tyler > >> > > > > >> > > > On Jul 2, 2013, at 3:22 PM, Brian LeRoux <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > > Its a good point about ios6+. I can't imagine anyone is > developing > >> > for > >> > > > > anything less (other than corodva@<=2.9 legacy support). > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Michal Mocny < > [email protected] > >> > > >> > > > wrote: > >> > > > >> To answer the question of why we may want to leave it out: > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> - If you are using remote debugging on ios6+ you don't need it > >> > > > >> - Our log wrapper has been repeatedly less functional than the > >> > system > >> > > > >> implementation (though we do fix these issues as they are > found) > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> But that does not mean I am arguing against leaving it in by > >> > default. > >> > > > >> Idealist me says 3.0.0 should move everything that can be a > plugin > >> > out > >> > > > to > >> > > > >> a plugin. Pragmatist me says this is pretty safe/useful in > core. > >> > +0 > >> > > > vote > >> > > > >> here either way. > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> Perhaps we could have a set of "default" plugins that are > >> installed, > >> > > but > >> > > > >> can be un-installed? This would give us best of both worlds. > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> -Michal > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Filip Maj <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >>> The only one I can think of is a production environment to > try to > >> > > save > >> > > > on > >> > > > >>> a few kb of footprint and a few initialization cycles. I don't > >> > think > >> > > > it's > >> > > > >>> worth removing entirely from core, though. Instead, try to > make > >> the > >> > > > >>> built-in Logger plugin as easily removable as possible. > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> On 7/2/13 9:57 AM, "Marcel Kinard" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>>> Are there a scenarios where it would be good to not have > Logger > >> in > >> > > an > >> > > > >>>> app, such as permissions, footprint, or just not needing any > >> > logging > >> > > > >>>> functionality? I'm having a tough time thinking of any, so > I'd > >> > also > >> > > > say: > >> > > > >>>> +1 leaving Logger in core > >> > > > >>>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> >
