I dare you to idle in #phonegap on irc.freenode.net and answer every plugin-related question.
On 7/30/13 12:33 PM, "Filip Maj" <[email protected]> wrote: >As for who is getting angry/confused, I am helping folk on #cordova IRC >upgrade their plugins because it won't work / not accounted for in the >upgrade guides. > >On 7/30/13 12:12 PM, "Tommy-Carlos Williams" <[email protected]> wrote: > >>I don't wanna sound like I am being a pain, but reallyŠ the whole >>deprecation policy thing is a bit pointless if it's not followed, and not >>noisy. >> >>Most people who use plugins, use other people's plugins, they don't build >>them themselves. >> >>The use of plugins so far in the life of Cordova has been one of massive >>pain when in fact it should have been one of Cordova's shining lights. >> >>As one of the people that *does* face developer/end user wrath when this >>stuff gets broken every few months, it would be really nice if the >>Cordova devs doing the breaking could also be those to help the fixing. >> >>Blog posts. We need more. I can try to help on this and it's right up my >>alley, but I am also in the middle of trying to ship an app, so time is >>tight. >> >>I'll try to write a post on taking a 2.x plugin (say an example from >>phonegap/phonegap-plugins) and turning it into a working 3.x plugin when >>I get back to Australia. However, if a week has gone by and I haven't >>been able to, can anyone put their hand up to do it in my stead? >>Realistically it needs to cover Android and iOS at a minimum (the plugin >>ecosystem for the other platforms is much smaller). >> >>Any takers? >> >>- tommy >> >>On 30/07/2013, at 11:57 AM, Joe Bowser <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> So, yeah, remember how I fought this, and then suddenly we came to >>> consensus because it's better to break everything all at once? >>> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-4454 >>> >>> Can we actually follow our deprecation policy from now on? There's >>> people there who are being unreasonable and asking for us to extend >>> deprecation times to be a year in length because we do things like >>> this. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Simon MacDonald >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Yup, break everything at once. >>>> >>>> >>>> Simon Mac Donald >>>> http://hi.im/simonmacdonald >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Marcel Kinard <[email protected]> >>>>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Normally being very averse to changing pubic API's, I'm with Andrew >>>>>and >>>>> Ian on this. If we are going to be making breaking changes, >>>>>especially if >>>>> they are small, do them all at once. >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 9, 2013, at 11:06 PM, Joe Bowser <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> So far, we've asked plugin developers to migrate from the old-style >>>>>> plugins to CordovaPlugin so that their plugins will work with 3.0.0. >>>>>> Many plugin developers have already done that. >>>>> >>>>> We have migrated our plugins, but have third-party plugins done the >>>>>same? >>>>> Or do they wait for us to release the breaking change and then they >>>>>are >>>>> "forced" to update their plugin? I'm guessing the latter, but that is >>>>>just >>>>> a guess. >>>>> >>>>> I think what would help here is a Plugin Migration Guide in >>>>>cordova-docs >>>>> that gives a nice list of what the plugin developer needs to do. Most >>>>> plugin devs are probably OK with making changes, as long as we tell >>>>>them >>>>> what they need to know. >>>>> >>>>> If there is a third-party plugin that an app developer needs that is >>>>> abandonware, then they can stick with 2.9.x until the plugin gets >>>>>updated. >>>>> >>>>> >> >
