Cool. So that would not constitute discussion IMO. Point being: making that change without discussion has lead to bugs and a poorer experience. On Nov 13, 2013 11:26 AM, "Andrew Grieve" <agri...@chromium.org> wrote:
> I changed it in September, and announced the change in a blog post: > http://cordova.apache.org/news/2013/09/13/last-week.html > > > > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Bryan Higgins <br...@bryanhiggins.net > >wrote: > > > To be fair to Josh, the semantic change was made long before he started > > working on this project. He simply noticed serve was broken and sent a > > patch to the list for review. > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote: > > > > > Thx Dick. > > > > > > So, Braden/Josh: did we discuss these semantics changes on list at all > or > > > was this just colloquially decided out off list and implemented? The > > latter > > > is not cool. If I missed the former I apologize. > > > > > > I don't have a problem with this new feature per se but I don't think > it > > > has been thoroughly discussed (regardless), and obviously it has not > been > > > well tested (if at all). > > > > > > And I do have trouble with adding stuff to an already very large > project. > > > Do we need the new url scheme for app harness? If so, a landing page > > thing > > > makes sense, I guess. Feels like we walking into territory that belongs > > to > > > tooling like Grunt however. Could we have worked together to use the > > > designer resources available from other committers to make it look > better > > > than an error state? Yes. > > > > > > Mild rant time. > > > > > > We have to use this list to keep everyone in the loop on the work being > > > done. We can help each other create solid releases with beautiful > > > experiences. Quietly introducing new semantics, untested, and a frankly > > > terrible looking experience is a step backwards and worst of all it > > wasn't > > > necessary. I am certain this was not deliberate or malicious but I do > > think > > > it sucks. > > > > > > I am asking everyone here to think before you rock a large changeset, > > make > > > smaller atomic changes that are thoroughly discussed, and give everyone > > > here the opportunity to contribute to the effort. Each release should > be > > an > > > improvement on the last. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:21 AM, Dick Van den Brink < > > > d_vandenbr...@outlook.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Issue created: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-5368 > > > > I tested on master and 3.2.0rc, not working in IE11, working in other > > > > browsers. > > > > Landing page is working in all browsers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: jso...@blackberry.com > > > > > To: dev@cordova.apache.org; d_vandenbr...@outlook.com; b...@brian.io; > > > > timki...@gmail.com > > > > > CC: j...@blackberry.com > > > > > Subject: Re: cordova serve broken > > > > > Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 05:39:42 +0000 > > > > > > > > > > Andrew wrote: > > > > >> Sounds issue-worthy. > > > > > > > > > >> I think Josh added some usage messages to serve > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I drove changes by our team here. > > > > > > > > > >> (and a landing page for /), > > > > > > > > > > Yep, especially this > > > > > > > > > >> so the next release will be more user-friendly. > > > > > > > > > > Speaking of which, there's a release candidate available now, > please > > > try > > > > the following: > > > > > > > > > > npm install -g cordova@3.2.0-rc.1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cordova create directory com.example.hello HelloWorld > > > > > cd directory > > > > > cordova platform add blackberry10 > > > > > > > > > > cordova serve > > > > > > > > > > And then visit http://localhost:8000 in your browsers. > > > > > > > > > > We're doing testing of Cordova 3.2 RC this week and I'm happy to > work > > > on > > > > things that are identified. > > > > > > > > > > I have OS X 10.9 and Windows 8 handy along with some VMs from > > > modern.ie. > > > > If there are browsers that should be tested, please let us know. > > > > > > > > > > The landing page isn't particularly shiny as I don't usually spend > > time > > > > on CSS. Patches or suggestions are welcome. > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > This transmission (including any attachments) may contain > > confidential > > > > information, privileged material (including material protected by the > > > > solicitor-client or other applicable privileges), or constitute > > > non-public > > > > information. Any use of this information by anyone other than the > > > intended > > > > recipient is prohibited. If you have received this transmission in > > error, > > > > please immediately reply to the sender and delete this information > from > > > > your system. Use, dissemination, distribution, or reproduction of > this > > > > transmission by unintended recipients is not authorized and may be > > > > unlawful. > > > > > > > > > >
