+Tim Kim

On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Andrew Grieve <agri...@chromium.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 6:14 PM, Gorkem Ercan <gorkem.er...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 04:32:20PM -0500, Andrew Grieve wrote:
>>> FYI to others - the docs for this is found here (seems to have some
>>> incorrectly formatted markdown too :( ) :
>>> http://cordova.apache.org/docs/en/3.3.0/plugin_ref_spec.md.html#Plugin%20Specification
>>>
>>> My understanding was that:
>>> <engine name="cordova-android" version=">=1.8.0" />
>>> is the same as:
>>> <engine name="cordova-android" version=">=1.8.0" platform="android" />
>>> not:
>>> <engine name="cordova" version=">=1.8.0" platform="android" />
>>
>> What is actually different here? I know the implementation assumes all
>> platforms when it sees cordova but it does not have to, it could just
>> look take platform attribute into account. I am just
>> trying to understand the reasons for the cordova-${platform} engine
>> names.
>
> The difference is name="cordova-android" vs name="cordova".
>
> Not positive, but I think:
> cordova-android refers to the version of the cordova-android repo that
> you're using.
> cordova refers to the cadence version of cordova that you're using
> (version of CLI tools or version of cordova-js)
>
>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think this is definitely open for discussion. As you say - usage of
>>> the tags are very limited right now.
>>>
>>> Other concerns with it I have:
>>> - scriptSrc allows plugins to run code on the host machine upon
>>> install... Seems like a security concern.
>>> I *think* the answer to your question is that we want to be able to specify:
>>> <engine name="cordova-android" version=">=1.8.0" />
>>> <engine name="cordova-ios" version=">=1.9.0" />
>>>
>>> And don't want cordova-ios checked when you don't have the android
>>> platform. And the syntax is more concise than:
>>
>> I think this is a bit strict and makes life harder if iOS is not really
>> targeted by the application. Perhaps missing one of those engines should
>> be a warning and missing all of them a fail.
>
> The engines are specified in plugin.xml, not in config.xml. If you
> don't meet the iOS requirement for the plugin because you don't have
> the iOS platform, then it for sure should be ignored.
>
>
>>
>>> <engine name="cordova-android" version=">=1.8.0" platform="android" />
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Gorkem Ercan <gorkem.er...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> > JBoss Tools have recently added the capability to switch between
>>> > Cordova engines. See [1] for details. While implementing checks for
>>> > plug-in compatibility I found the engine definitions on the plug-in 
>>> > specification to
>>> > be more complex than needed to be.
>>> >
>>> > I think there are too many "default engines" defined.
>>> > for instance
>>> >   <engine name="cordova-android" version=">=1.8.0" />
>>> > is essentially the same as
>>> >   <engine name="cordova" version=">=1.8.0" platform="android" />
>>> >
>>> > Could someone remind the reason for having platform specific default 
>>> > engine names? If
>>> > they exist for a historic reason can we remove it from the documentation
>>> > and guide people to use the platform attribute? I can provide a doc patch 
>>> > for this purpose.
>>> > I think this is making the implementation on plugman more complex also.
>>> >
>>> > And specifying custom Apache Cordova-based frameworks is a different
>>> > beast altogether. It actually gives the responsibility to integrate a
>>> > custom engine with plugman to the plug-ins with the scriptSrc attribute.
>>> > I do not think this will scale considering that the engine and plug-in
>>> > ideally have a different life cycle. I think plugman should actually
>>> > provide a way for custom engines to provide this information.
>>> >
>>> > I guess there is some merit to engines such as "apple-xcode" but I have
>>> > yet not been able to find a plug-in that uses those. I must also admit
>>> > the use of engine definitions is also very limited.
>>> >
>>> > [1] 
>>> > http://www.gorkem-ercan.com/2014/01/multiple-cordova-engines-on-jboss.html

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