On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Josh Soref <jso...@blackberry.com> wrote:

> Michal wrote:
> > Wouldn't this be better handled by Brian's dream of
> >browser-as-a-platform?
>
> I haven¹t worked through all the details, but I don¹t think so. If you
> want to run the blackberry specific hooks and you browse to the app from
> your blackberry browser, then you¹re going to be unhappy if it¹s a
> different platform.
>

If you want BB-specific hooks with BB-browser, then target BB.

If you want to test your app using cordova plugins on a desktop browser
simulating a mobile phone, browser-as-a-platform is the I think the way to
go.

If you are done building your app on desktop, and now want to test more
device specific styles (such as fonts), I would say that you should test on
device.  Is this prohibitively difficult on BB (I have not tried so not
sure what the turnaround time is)?  Perhaps the app harness + some of the
auto-reload-on-device work that Braden is doing will help?


>
> Browser-as-an-engine might work, maybe.
>

I don't think so -- "engine" is the concept of replacing the use of the
system webview, but thats still running on-device.


>
> > I understand that this solves your immediate problem, but I'm not sure
> > extending serve is really the right long term solution for this.
>
>
> > ..also, your idea of "automatically look for a well known file" could be
> > done within the application by feature detecting that its running in a
> > desktop browser.
>
> We¹re the SDK, not the application. I could tell authors ³if you want to
> see the fonts, put in this magic², but I¹m hoping to avoid making each
> author do that (where possible). There¹s also licensing fun w/ the fonts.
>
> I suppose that I could insert some code into cordova.js instead of having
> serve manage the css.
>
> > Would it be prehibitive to dynamically inject the style
> > on startup from the app itself?
>
> Doing it with a link: header is a lot cleaner than inserting strange logic
> into cordova.js, butŠ
>

I didn't mean cordova.js -- I meant the specific app you are using for
testing.  You can ship cordova-cli hooks to add this if you want to share
the functionality between several apps.

I'm asking: do we really need to change the tools?


>
> We can and probably will provide templates which include a style saying
> ³use font: Slate Pro². That¹s all you need for the platform engine.
>
> If we did use cordova.js instead of having serve provide the .css file,
> we¹d still need a way to get the fonts to the browser-as-engine case
> (which is handled by the .extra code).
>
> In case you¹re curious, installing fonts to a user¹s system is a no-go for
> a number of reasons (* it¹s painful to try to manage ‹ often requiring
> administrative privileges which isn¹t something we require, * Licensing is
> wrong, * it pollutes the user¹s font-space or their computer¹s font-space
> if shared, * it doesn¹t work if the user is visiting serve from a device
> other than localhost).
>
>

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