This is complete now. Let me know if you guy see any other stuff I should change.
I didn't see a reference to the phonegap irc channel on the site. On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Michal Mocny <mmo...@chromium.org> wrote: > Fantastic, thanks Steven. > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Steven Gill <stevengil...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > I was just creating an issue and was about to do it :P > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Michal Mocny <mmo...@chromium.org> > > wrote: > > > > > Okay okay, so who is going to update the website? > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Carlos Santana <csantan...@gmail.com > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > I think having a user@ can be created, but in practice no value add > > > > > > > > 1. users will not use it (for various reasons already mentioned in > this > > > > thread) > > > > 2. committers and subject matter experts will not use it to answer > > > > questions (if they do, just to copy paste a template "use jira or > SO") > > > > > > > > If the problem is that we don't trust SO to be there tomorrow and go > > > > offline, then lets implement an archive that backups all questions > and > > > > answers tag with "cordova" and for that matter also backup the > phonegap > > > > google group :-). > > > > > > > > IMHO I think SO and google groups are reliable ecosystems and they > will > > > not > > > > go down tomorrow, and if they are not around in 50 years that's fine > if > > > at > > > > least they are around for 6 months which is I think how long people > > have > > > > current issues and problems that are relevant to this project. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Joe Bowser <bows...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:33 AM, Shane Curcuru < > a...@shanecurcuru.org > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > (not subscribed to list) > > > > > > > > > > > > Terrence brings up a critical point about how the Apache Way > works: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I knew that the "Apache Way" would be mentioned. Every time we > have > > > > > to do something that makes no sense, hurts or users, it's because > of > > > > > "The Apache Way"! > > > > > > > > > > The fact is that our users are not technically adept and I doubt > that > > > > > they could find a Cordova users list, and that if they found such a > > > > > users list, most of them would eventually be stuck on that list > > > > > forever because they wouldn't know how to unsubscribe from that > list. > > > > > Also, searching for anything on the archives of the Apache lists is > > > > > extremely painful, and the only times I've seen that happen is when > > > > > malicious Apache members want to go and smear the crap out of the > > > > > project finding every time I've bashed the ASF and "the Apache > Way". > > > > > I think most of our users will get frustrated by markmail and will > > > > > either ask the same thing over and over again, even though it's in > > the > > > > > docs or just leave. > > > > > > > > > > Can we for once actually think of our users and not how to mess > them > > > > > over with "The Apache Way"? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Carlos Santana > > > > <csantan...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > >
