Ian and I made the switch to internal (via the preference). - I thought at one point the default app template set the preference to internal, so that new apps would get the better behaviour and existing apps would continue to work. I don't see this happening now though :( - The duplicate files/files, although oddly names, was just meant to give the HTML5 FS root a directory that isolated from the rest of the app's internal storage (so that it doesn't conflict with files put there by plugins)
Anyways, +1 for just switching this default and bumping the version. On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 9:27 PM, Carlos Santana <csantan...@gmail.com> wrote: > ding ding ding we have a winner , Are the blackberry guys still around on > this mailing list by the way? > On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 10:00 PM Simon MacDonald < > simon.macdon...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > As near as I can tell Windows use internal private storage as well. > > > > Simon Mac Donald > > http://hi.im/simonmacdonald > > > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Carlos Santana <csantan...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > I think cross platform web developers would expect all platforms to > have > > > same default. What the default for windows? > > > > > > +1 make default internal at least will have iOS and android with same > > > expectations > > > > > > We need to change the Major number (sever) for the version, it feels > like > > > is changing an API > > > > > > I like the explicit even if it's not needed because the default is > > > internal. But if they see it there it reminds them that internal is > being > > > used. > > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 4:02 PM Darryl Pogue <dar...@dpogue.ca> wrote: > > > > > > > +1 because saving to the SD Card has added problems with other apps > > (such > > > > as photo and music apps) picking up files that they shouldn't. > > > > > > > > Nothing more annoying than accidentally unleashing 200 logos and > icons > > > into > > > > the photos app of unsuspecting users. > > > > > > > > On 22 July 2015 at 12:47, Simon MacDonald <simon.macdon...@gmail.com > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > *TL;DR Summary* > > > > > > > > > > We should switch the default for the Cordova Android File System to > > be > > > on > > > > > internal storage, not the SD Card (or emulated SD card). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Long Version* > > > > > > > > > > Currently in Cordova Android when you use this code "window. > > > > > requestFileSystem(PERSISTENT, 0, win, fail);" the root file system > > path > > > > > that is returned is "/storage/emulated/0" i.e. "/sdcard". > > > > > > > > > > Why you may ask? Because back in 2010 or so Bryce Curtis and I > argued > > > > that > > > > > we should use the external storage location because internal > storage > > > was > > > > > not very large on Android 2.x and we didn't want to have developers > > > > filling > > > > > up the devices limited internal storage. Joe Bowser argued against > it > > > > > because of issues with the SD Card on Android but was eventually > out > > > > voted. > > > > > > > > > > Now, I'm prepared to admit that Bryce was wrong (see what I did > > > there?). > > > > I > > > > > feel that the default behaviour for > > > "window.requestFileSystem(PERSISTENT, > > > > > 0, win, fail);" should be to resolve to a location on internal > > storage > > > > that > > > > > meets the following requirements: > > > > > > > > > > a) private to the application > > > > > > > > > > b) removed when the application is uninstalled > > > > > > > > > > c) lines up with what we have on iOS and WP > > > > > > > > > > In fact you can get this behaviour right now but setting the > > following > > > > > preference in config.xml: > > > > > > > > > > <preference name="AndroidPersistentFileLocation" value="Internal" > /> > > > > > > > > > > This gets you a root file path of "/data/data/<android > > > > > package>/files/files/". The double "files" is an issue but we can > > > > probably > > > > > ignore it for now. > > > > > > > > > > If a user wants the old behaviour they only need to make the > > > preference: > > > > > > > > > > <preference name="AndroidPersistentFileLocation" > > value="Compatibility" > > > /> > > > > > > > > > > and the original behaviour will be retained. > > > > > > > > > > What I'm advocating for is to make internal storage the default > > > behaviour > > > > > for Cordova Android. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Code Changes* > > > > > > > > > > I've already taken a brief look into this and I feel the change is > > > > > extremely minor. We need only change the default return value from > > > > > "compatibility" to "internal" at line 156 of FileUtils.java ( > > > > > https://github > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .com/apache/cordova-plugin-file/blob/master/src/android/FileUtils.java#L156 > > > > > ). > > > > > > > > > > If we wanted to make the change explicit to the user we could > change > > > > > plugin. > > > > > xml to add the preference to config.xml as well. > > > > > > > > > > Thoughts, comments, applause? > > > > > Simon Mac Donald > > > > > http://hi.im/simonmacdonald > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >