Personally, I think we should rewrite/simplify that template ALOT. The app binding stuff is confusing to users, but not potentially any less confusing with PR#15. The use of an object is the issue in my mind.
Also, if this is the starting point for a new developer, they will soon wonder why everything they add to the page is UPPERCASE, part of the css, but potentially confusing. Ultimately, I think the whole starting point is over-organized with it's multiple folders. PR#5 is closer to the goal I think, although I would still leave js in an external file, and not directly in index.html and I would leave quotes on html tag attributes. @purplecabbage risingj.com On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Parashuram N <panar...@microsoft.com> wrote: > Will do. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steven Gill [mailto:stevengil...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 10:44 AM > To: dev@cordova.apache.org > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Update to starter template > > LGTM > > Could you also add the keyword 'cordova:template' to package.json? > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 9:58 AM, Parashuram N <panar...@microsoft.com> > wrote: > > > :) Sounds good > > > > Anyone else have any objections to the change ? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Carlos Santana [mailto:csantan...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 7:51 PM > > To: dev@cordova.apache.org > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Update to starter template > > > > I'm always in favor of having simple answers and guidelines, and we > > can take this as a good convention/practice > > > > "Always bind/attach after deviceready even and you will be in a happy > > place" > > > > But between you and me you know that we can attach before, will leave > > that little secret between us :-) > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 10:44 PM Parashuram N <panar...@microsoft.com> > > wrote: > > > > > The reason to say that all events are fired after device ready is > > > just to make it simpler. As you say, events by webviews are indeed > > > fired before that, but I think it is safe to say that if we attach > > > listeners after deviceready, we are guaranteed to have the plugins > > > also initialized. This makes for a more consistent story. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/15/16, 7:25 PM, "Carlos Santana" <csantan...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > >Why do you think that binding is required after "deviceready" ? > > > > > > > >Attaching before "deviceready" fires is still supported for events > > > >like resume, pause, offline, online, etc.. At least that's always > > > >being my impression for a long time > > > > > > > >The only thing I would think it could be a potential confusion that > > > >would benefit to attached after "deviceready" is that if there is > > > >an "online" or "offline" event fire by webview [1], [2] and not > > > >plugin those handlers > > > will > > > >fire but will not be from the network plugin. > > > > > > > >One thing I like thought about the PR is making index.js less > > > >verbose and simpler to follow +1 > > > > > > > >[1]: > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fdev > > > el > > > oper.mozilla.org%2fen-US%2fdocs%2fWeb%2fEvents%2foffline&data=01%7c0 > > > 1% > > > 7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c54f8ca7873ae4337a50608d33680f157%7c72f9 > > > 88 > > > bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=8%2b4NzK8zAB%2ffqryeM%2fN9XYnmu > > > lm > > > bzlAeIogT9H1b4ic%3d > > > >[2]: > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fdev > > > el > > > oper.mozilla.org%2fen-US%2fdocs%2fWeb%2fEvents%2fonline&data=01%7c01 > > > %7 > > > cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c54f8ca7873ae4337a50608d33680f157%7c72f98 > > > 8b > > > f86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=VLBX15Tz2VxbDC1JuS0H3qm1KGuRv7Cd > > > IA > > > XaRnZbqR4%3d > > > > > > > > > > > >On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 12:36 PM Parashuram N > > > ><panar...@microsoft.com> > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > >> While working on documentation about events for Cordova, we > > > >> noticed that in our Cordova starter template [1] seems to suggest > > > >> that we bind events like “offline” and “online” alongside the > “deviceready” > > > >> event. As I understand, the “offline” and “online” events are > > > >> something that the NetworkInformation plugin provides, and thus > > > >> should only be bound after cordova-js has been initialized. > > > >> Here [2] is a change where we only bind “deviceready” first, and > > > >> then recommend binding all events when the handler for > > > >> “deviceready” is > > > called. > > > >> Do you folks think this is a good change ? Here [3] is the JIRA > > > >> for > > it. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> [1] Cordova Started template - > > > >> https://github.com/apache/cordova-app-hello-world/ > > > >> [2] Pull request with change to starter template - > > > >> https://github.com/apache/cordova-app-hello-world/pull/15/files > > > >> [3] JIRA for PR with change to starter template - > > > >> > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fiss > > > ue > > > s.apache.org%2fjira%2fbrowse%2fCB-10522&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40mi > > > cr > > > osoft.com%7c54f8ca7873ae4337a50608d33680f157%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2 > > > d7 > > > cd011db47%7c1&sdata=66cC5xZm3Rh6xzxjqV48u%2bdrZSJZba1g%2f%2beFnwL7aG > > > k% > > > 3d > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org >