I am failing to be clear about something.

Of course I am on the project.

And I am reviewing a release candidate.

My review is from the perspective of what a third party needs to know in order 
to obtain and use the release candidate, were it approved as a release. 

Isn't that the purpose of such review?  To assess what they will find and its 
nature with regard to Apache Project practices, etc.

I do not need to be taught how to add a public key to my key ring, or how to 
find Jan's key on the list of Apache committer's keys.

My question is as a reviewer, applying my beginner's mind as well as I can. I 
assume the third party is not on our dev@ list and is responding to an 
announcement of the availability of an incubator release.  I do not want to 
rely on tacit knowledge or what I could figure out as a knowledgeable 
participant on ASF Projects.  We're talking about something made available to 
the public.

Is that understandable, now?

 - Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Kelly [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 10:42
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS][PRE-VOTE] Release candidate 0.1

> On 15 Aug 2015, at 12:34 am, Dennis E. Hamilton <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> I think it looks good to you because you signed it and you have the public 
> key.
> 
> I obviously do not have the public key of the signer.
> 
> Furthermore, nowhere am I told that I need yours.  I am reviewing this as 
> someone who is not on the project.  

My understanding is that you *are* on the project - these release candidates 
are intended for people who are on the project.

Even if someone were not on the project, I don’t think it’s an unreasonable 
stretch to assume that Jan is the signer, or that at minimum a verification 
could be attempted using his public key.

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