Hi - I agree with Dennis and for similar reasons. A combination of personal issues and differences in concerns about when and how to handle the edges of legal policy occurred.
It became clear that the community was not a good fit with this "situation." The community "self deported". I use "" to indicate that others might use different words. I don't care to debate it, these are my current interpretations. I have no desire to "pull the scab" on this matter. In addition a post mortem will have a sample size issue. Retirement is happening and this list is going away. The bulk of the community is long gone. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 8, 2016, at 5:23 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton <dennis.hamil...@acm.org> > wrote: > > Joe, > > Based on activity and remarks I have observed on other Apache lists, I think > that lessons have been taken from the collapse of the Corinthia podling > although not addressed directly to the Corinthia situation. > > I looked at the postmortem template and find that it is not very suited to an > Apache project, although some of the items might be responded to. Also, > Corinthia expired pretty-much during start-up. > > I have two reservations about engaging in a post mortem. > > 1. A key breakdown occurred around personnel issues/conficts that played out > mainly on the private Podling Project Management Committee list among the > project members and the mentors together. Those matters deserve to remain > private. > > 2. As a character in that drama, I must recuse myself from attempting any > kind of assessment. > > Bertrand may have something more useful to say based on his broad perspective > on Apache projects and incubation of podlings. > > Regards, > > - Dennis > > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Slow Joe [mailto:slow.joe....@gmail.com] >> Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 14:48 >> To: dev@corinthia.incubator.apache.org >> Subject: Post mortem request for the handling of the Corinthia podling >> (was Re: FYI, I have subscribed to this list and to your private list) >> >>> Forming a podling is difficult as if often starts with a team that >>> hasn't necessarily chosen to work together. I bet the situation > >> would >>> have been very different if you guys had been able to meet in >> >>> person, >> >>> but in email that's quite hard. >> >>> -Bertrand >> >> >> Hi Bertrand >> >> I observed the meltdown of the Corinthia podling from a distance with >> some >> regret. >> >> Since the project is now on the verge of withdrawal from the incubator, >> could you and Dennis consider whether it would be valuable to >> collaborate >> on a blame-free post-mortem describing the events which lead to the end >> of >> Corinthia. >> >> (A template for a postmortem document is at >> https://lastbytes.wordpress.com/2013/01/15/a-postmortem-template/) >> >> I would suggest that there are lessons for the Apache Project to learn >> from >> this event. >> >> Regards >> >> Joe >
