Both rsync an scp won't allow me to do curl http://couch/db/_dump | curl 
http://couch/db/_restore.

I acknowledge that similar solutions exist, but using the http transport allows 
for more fun things down the road.

See what we are doing with _changes today where DbUpdateNotifications nearly do 
the same thing.

Cheers
Jan
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On 16.08.2011, at 19:13, Nathan Vander Wilt <nate-li...@calftrail.com> wrote:

> We've already got replication, _all_docs and some really robust on-disk 
> consistency properties. For shuttling raw database files between servers, 
> wouldn't rsync be more efficient (and fit better within existing sysadmin 
> security/deployment structures)?
> -nvw
> 
> 
> On Aug 16, 2011, at 9:55 AM, Paul Davis wrote:
>> Me and Adam were just mulling over a similar endpoint the other night
>> that could be used to generate plain-text backups similar to what
>> couchdb-dump and couchdb-load were doing. With the idea that there
>> would be some special sauce to pipe from one _dump endpoint directly
>> into a different _load handler. Obvious downfall was incremental-ness
>> of this. Seems like it'd be doable, but I'm not entirely certain on
>> the best method.
>> 
>> I was also considering this as our full-proof 100% reliable method for
>> migrating data between different CouchDB versions which we seem to
>> screw up fairly regularly.
>> 
>> +1 on the idea. Not sure about raw couch files as it limits the wider
>> usefulness (and we already have scp).
>> 
>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Jan Lehnardt <j...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> This is only slightly related, but I'm dreaming of /db/_dump and 
>>> /db/_restore endpoints (the names don't matter, could be one with GET / 
>>> PUT) that just ships verbatim .couch files over HTTP. It would be for 
>>> admins only, it would not be incremental (although we might be able to add 
>>> that), and I haven't yet thought through all the concurrency and error case 
>>> implications, the above solves more than the proposed problem and in a very 
>>> different, but I thought I throw it in the mix.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Jan
>>> --
>>> 
>>> On Aug 16, 2011, at 5:08 PM, Robert Newson wrote:
>>> 
>>>> +1 on the intention but we'll need to be careful. The use case is
>>>> specifically to allow verbatim migration of databases between servers.
>>>> A separate role makes sense as I'm not sure of the consequences of
>>>> explicitly granting this ability to the existing _admin role.
>>>> 
>>>> B.
>>>> 
>>>> On 16 August 2011 15:26, Adam Kocoloski <kocol...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>> One of the principal uses of the replicator is to "make this database 
>>>>> look like that one".  We're unable to do that in the general case today 
>>>>> because of the combination of validation functions and out-of-order 
>>>>> document transfers.  It's entirely possible for a document to be saved in 
>>>>> the source DB prior to the installation of a ddoc containing a validation 
>>>>> function that would have rejected the document, for the replicator to 
>>>>> install the ddoc in the target DB before replicating the other document, 
>>>>> and for the other document to then be rejected by the target DB.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I propose we add a role which allows a user to bypass validation, or else 
>>>>> extend that privilege to the _admin role.  We should still validate 
>>>>> updates by default and add a way (a new qs param, for instance) to 
>>>>> indicate that validation should be skipped for a particular update.  
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Adam
>>> 
>>> 
> 

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