On Oct 21, 2011, at 20:17 , Robert Newson wrote: > +1 on Noah's non-Procedure.
I claim that non-Procedure, good sir. Cheers Jan -- > > B. > > On 21 October 2011 19:14, Noah Slater <nsla...@tumbolia.org> wrote: >> Most productive edits come from regular contributors or members of the >> community. Most drive-by edits come from spammers. In fact, there are some >> spammers with genuine accounts, who make very purposeful and directed edits >> to inject links inconspicuously. >> >> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 7:06 PM, Pepijn de Vos <pepijnde...@yahoo.com>wrote: >> >>> I wonder what the demography is of contributors. Are they all contributors >>> and list members, or is there a reasonable portion of users that just walk >>> by, fix something and walk on. >>> >>> On Oct 21, 2011, at 7:58 PM, Noah Slater wrote: >>> >>>> Yeah, I don't think we need a Procedureā¢ in place for this. >>>> >>>> Basically, as long as a wiki admin adds you to the contributor list, >>> you're >>>> good to go. How you reach out to that admin, or how they find out about >>> your >>>> request, is unimportant. We should present plenty of options for people >>> to >>>> contact one of us. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Paul Davis <paul.joseph.da...@gmail.com >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Jan Lehnardt <j...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 21, 2011, at 18:57 , Noah Slater wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Sounds good to me. >>>>>> >>>>>> "Open a JIRA to get a wiki account" sounds very bad to me. >>>>>> >>>>>> I understand we gotta get the spam under control, but asking >>>>>> people to sign up in two places and put a potentially long >>>>>> manual setup process will kill almost any contribution energy. >>>>>> Heck, I try to avoid the wiki as much as I can as is. >>>>>> >>>>>> <insert handwavey suggestion to a better alternative> >>>>>> >>>>>> (I got nothing for now apart from moving to a better wiki, sorry) >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> Jan >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I agree with Jan about multiple signups. I'd say an email to any list >>>>> or any IRC request is more than enough to get wiki edits is fine. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Benoit Chesneau <bchesn...@gmail.com >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Friday, October 21, 2011, Noah Slater <nsla...@tumbolia.org> >>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> To JIRA you mean? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> yes >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Benoit Chesneau < >>>>> bchesn...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 2:26 AM, Noah Slater <nsla...@tumbolia.org >>>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Hey, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On advice from Gavin McDonald, I'd like to suggest that we lock >>> down >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> wiki to a list of pre-approved users. To get approved to make >>> edits, >>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>> would submit a request to one of the mailing lists or to one of >>> the >>>>>>>> wiki >>>>>>>>>>> admins or committers. That's it. It should remove the need to >>>>> protect >>>>>>>>>> pages >>>>>>>>>>> like the "in the wild" stuff and the people on the couch. Other >>>>>>>> projects >>>>>>>>>>> have implemented this and they get absolutely no spam as a result. >>>>>>>>>>> Infrastructure suggested we move to it, and I wanna see what >>> people >>>>>>>> think >>>>>>>>>>> about it. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> More info here: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.apache.org/general/OurWikiFarm >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> +1 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Maybe approval requests could also be submitted as tickets? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> - benoit >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>