Here, here, Joan. Let's wait for submissions, and wait for Sean.
Then once we have a bevy of suggestions we can put the entire matter to a poll. On 30 October 2014 19:05, Joan Touzet <woh...@apache.org> wrote: > I have started a new marketing@ thread on changing the motto, as it's not > a developer-related issue. > > Trying to get this thread back on track, if people have new logo > suggestions - real ones, well designed, not jokes or vitriol, please post > them here for us to get a look at. We don't need an official announcement > about a logo search/contest to start accepting submissions. > > -Joan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andy Wenk" <andyw...@apache.org> > To: dev@couchdb.apache.org > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 1:09:24 PM > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Improved CouchDB logo > > Jan, > > thanks for your list :) . That reflects and summarises my thoughts as well > > @Noah ... I understand confusion with Couchbase in social media. I was not > really aware of that. So I support the point working on that issue but am > still -1 in changing the name > > Cheers > > Andy > > On 30 October 2014 17:49, Jan Lehnardt <j...@apache.org> wrote: > >> Ah, sorry, I thought this was in reply to me. Hooray for non-threaded MUAs >> :/ >> >> >> > On 30 Oct 2014, at 17:47 , Noah Slater <nsla...@apache.org> wrote: >> > >> > I was replying to this thread: >> > >> > Andy: >> >> sure - IF we want to rename then with 2.0. But before I give my whatever >> > vote, I would like to know which advantages you expect to get with a >> rename >> > .... as of now - I can only think of negative aspects ... >> > >> > Noah: >> >> Clear up massive brand confusion with Couchbase, basically. >> > >> > Andy: >> >> I am not sure how big this special issue is because I clearly see the >> > situation from CouchDB. If we have a look to the people on the ML who >> think >> > it's Couchbase, that's very minimal ... I would prefer to keep the name >> and >> > clarify the situation as often as possible >> > >> > On 30 October 2014 17:45, Jan Lehnardt <j...@apache.org> wrote: >> >> My comment on Couchbase was related to the logo, not the name. >> >> >> >> Best >> >> Jan >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On 30 Oct 2014, at 17:39 , Noah Slater <nsla...@apache.org> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> No, because of the name. >> >>> >> >>> On 30 October 2014 17:34, Jan Lehnardt <j...@apache.org> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> On 30 Oct 2014, at 17:33 , Noah Slater <nsla...@apache.org> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> The confusion with Couchbase is large, widespread, and shows no signs >> >>>>> of resolving itself any time soon. This issue is constantly coming up >> >>>>> on social media, in person, and so on. >> >>>> >> >>>> Because of the logo? I hardly think so. >> >>>> >> >>>> Best >> >>>> Jan >> >>>> -- >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On 30 October 2014 17:04, Andy Wenk <andyw...@apache.org> wrote: >> >>>>>> On 30 October 2014 16:47, Noah Slater <nsla...@apache.org> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Clear up massive brand confusion with Couchbase, basically. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> I am not sure how big this special issue is because I clearly see >> the >> >>>>>> situation from CouchDB. If we have a look to the people on the ML >> who think >> >>>>>> it's Couchbase, that's very minimal ... I would prefer to keep the >> name and >> >>>>>> clarify the situation as often as possible >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On 30 October 2014 16:35, Andy Wenk <andyw...@apache.org> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> sure - IF we want to rename then with 2.0. But before I give my >> whatever >> >>>>>>>> vote, I would like to know which advantages you expect to get >> with a >> >>>>>>> rename >> >>>>>>>> .... as of now - I can only think of negative aspects ... >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> On 30 October 2014 16:08, Jason Smith <jason.h.sm...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Love it. Get away from the WhateverDB thing. Just stake out an >> arbitrary >> >>>>>>>>> mark from which we build clear, unambiguous IP. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> My proposal (as long as we are brainstorming names): >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Eight Ball >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Tagline: Whatever you do. Don't get more eight ball! >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> More seriously, yes, a name change has lots of problems. But it >> is worth >> >>>>>>>>> re-considering Noah's point that now is the best time to do it, >> if it >> >>>>>>> is to >> >>>>>>>>> be done. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Noah Slater < >> nsla...@apache.org> >> >>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> I've been wanting to rename it SleepyDB for a while now. (cf. >> Max >> >>>>>>>>>> Ogden's SLEEP protocol.) >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> On 30 October 2014 11:43, Kevin Coombes < >> kevin.r.coom...@gmail.com> >> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>> Definitely -1 on changing the name. It's already "cooked" into >> >>>>>>>>> everything >> >>>>>>>>>>> associated with the project. There are links (and hard copy >> >>>>>>> references) >> >>>>>>>>>> to >> >>>>>>>>>>> the name and the web site(s) all over the place. How long do >> you >> >>>>>>> want >> >>>>>>>>> to >> >>>>>>>>>> be >> >>>>>>>>>>> forced to maintain DNS or HTTP entries to forward users from >> the >> >>>>>>>>> current >> >>>>>>>>>>> names to whatever you might pick for new ones? >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> I would be perfectly happy to see a new logo however. And the >> last >> >>>>>>>>> time I >> >>>>>>>>>>> looked, there were a lot more colors than just red or blue.... >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Kevin >> >>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2014 6:11 AM, "Brad Noble" <br...@us.ibm.com> >> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> *SyncDB* >> >>>>>>>>>>>> The database that syncs. >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Logo would embody that idea. >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Inactive hide details for Jason Smith ---10/30/2014 >> >>>>>>> 04:40:26 >> >>>>>>>>>>>> AM---On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Noah Slater >> <nslater@apache >> >>>>>>>>>> ]Jason >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Smith ---10/30/2014 04:40:26 AM---On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at >> 12:52 AM, >> >>>>>>>>> Noah >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Slater <nsla...@apache.org> wrote: > Blue is nice. :) But the >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jason Smith <jason.h.sm...@gmail.com> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> To: "dev@couchdb.apache.org" <dev@couchdb.apache.org> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 10/30/2014 04:40 AM >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Improved CouchDB logo >> >>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Noah Slater < >> nsla...@apache.org> >> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Blue is nice. :) But then that tempts me to change the name >> too. >> >>>>>>> I >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> mean, if we're ever going to do this, now is the time. It's >> >>>>>>>>> important >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to note though that we have a very STRONG brand, and >> changing it >> >>>>>>> in >> >>>>>>>>> a >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> big will be expensive. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Change the name! Change the name! >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Like all transitions, it seems scary. But once it's done we >> will >> >>>>>>> all >> >>>>>>>>>> wonder >> >>>>>>>>>>>> what we were so worried about. >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> The brand is strong, but the question is, how much of that >> strength >> >>>>>>>>> can >> >>>>>>>>>> we >> >>>>>>>>>>>> keep, and how much do we lose. >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> I think we will keep nearly all of it, plus we will get tons >> of >> >>>>>>>>>> attention >> >>>>>>>>>>>> with a 2.0 release and name change. And as if that already >> isn't >> >>>>>>>>>> enough, we >> >>>>>>>>>>>> get the opportunity to walk away from a ton of branding >> baggage and >> >>>>>>>>>>>> trademark problems. >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Change the name! >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>>>>> Noah Slater >> >>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>>> Andy Wenk >> >>>>>>>> Hamburg - Germany >> >>>>>>>> RockIt! >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588 >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>> Noah Slater >> >>>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> -- >> >>>>>> Andy Wenk >> >>>>>> Hamburg - Germany >> >>>>>> RockIt! >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588 >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> -- >> >>>>> Noah Slater >> >>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Noah Slater >> >>> https://twitter.com/nslater >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Noah Slater >> > https://twitter.com/nslater >> >> > > > -- > Andy Wenk > Hamburg - Germany > RockIt! > > GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588 > > https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc -- Noah Slater https://twitter.com/nslater
