inline ... On 14 November 2014 13:59, Jan Lehnardt <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hey all, > > I’d like to announce a CouchDB 2.0 Developer Preview at ApacheCon EU on > Monday. > YAYYYYY :) > > I think the best we can do is put up a tarball for people to build, with > instructions. > > I’m happy to do the legwork of producing the tarball and writing up the > install doc and put it all up on the site. E.g. at > http://couchdb.apache.org/developer-preview/2.0/ or something. > > This would *not* constitute and official ASF Release, but a convenience > code dump for people who want to try things out. > +1 > > If nobody objects, we could also set up a [email protected] > email list, so people have a safe space to talk about this and are not > overwhelmed by the rest of dev@, or we do this on users@, what do you > think? :) > I am not sure if it is needed to add a new ML. We saw historically, that new ML's are not that good accepted. And I don't really see problems with asking the people to join user@. I think user@ is perfectly fine. > > Also, the tarball, are we good to simply zip up the couchdb.git repo after > ./configure? Or would all users run ./configure? My main concern is of > course the time to setup, as cloning all the small repos tends to take some > time. If there are things that are tied to the Erlang version of the person > who runs ./configure, then we can’t circumvent this (without some extra > work). Can anyone shed some light on this? Thanks! :) > > Best > Jan > -- Cheers Andy > > > > On 10 Nov 2014, at 15:01 , Jan Lehnardt <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hey all, > > > > it is ApacheCon EU next week and CouchDB has a full track of great > talks, yay! \o/ > > > > > http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-europe/program/schedule > (Click on “Couch” in the side bar, to see all our talks :) > > > > I’m scheduled to give a CouchDB State of the Union kind of talk on > Monday morning and aside from where we are coming from and what the current > state is, I’d like to make some forward looking statements about CouchDB > 2.0. > > > > The big news, of course, is the BigCouch merge and what this means for > CouchDB. There are also various bits and pieces about things that we have > done outside of that (the rcouch merge), as well as a few things that are > part of the merge, but are worth pointing out on its own (like better > compaction e.g.). > > > > I’d like to do one better though. Bob Newson has already mentioned a few > times that master is now in a state that it would be great if more people > could get their hands on it. > > > > To that end, I’d like to propose that we announce and release[1] a > “Developer Preview” version of master as it is now (+ the _cluster_setup) > work. > > > > If you agree, what do you think we should be doing for this? > > > > My short list is: > > 1. finish /_cluster_setup & Fauxton UI, to make cluster setup easier > > 2. write “how to get started” guide > > 3. figure out what a “release” could look like. > > > > > > For 1. I can do on the backend, but I’d love some help from the Fauxton > team for the UI bits. > > > > For 2. I can do too, but any volunteers are welcome :D > > > > For 3. I only have a vague understanding of how to do releases in a 2.0 > world overall. Ideally, we have something that puts out nightly tarballs > (easily done on our CI server). A next step and nice to have would be > pre-built binaries for people to run, as well as a Docker/Vagrant/etc setup > that people can use. But I don’t know how far away all of these are for us > at this point. Can anyone shed some light on this? > > > > * * * > > > > Ideally, our Nov 17. Announcement says that everything is available > right away. > > > > Is there anything else that you think we absolutely need to do to make a > “Developer Preview” of CouchDB 2.0? Do you see any significant issues with > the things I outlined above? > > > > Is there anything in particular that I should be mentioning in (one of) > my ApacheCon EU talk(s)? > > > > Thank you for your help! > > > > Jan > > -- > > [1]: This doesn’t have to be an ASF, capital R, Release,d putting up > some tarballs somewhere would be fine. > > > > > > > > -- Andy Wenk Hamburg - Germany RockIt! GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588 https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
