> On 12 Jan 2017, at 15:44, Rich Bowen <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On 2017-01-12 08:12 (-0500), Jan Lehnardt <[email protected]> wrote: 
>> CouchDB Dev list & Sharan,
>> 
>> I would not recommend attending FOSDEM.
>> 
>> Their Code of Conduct is not up to modern standards (despite numerous 
>> attempts asking for improvement) and their past year’s incident handling 
>> has been sub-par to say the least.
>> 
>> Your mileage my vary.
> 
> 
> They've got a CoC this year - https://fosdem.org/2017/practical/conduct/ -  
> which is a step in the right direction. While I agree that FOSDEM has a LONG 
> way to go in terms of diversity, I think we should celebrate a step in the 
> right direction, while also encouraging more steps.
> 
> I think they're trying to move in the right direction, and need our help.

This is the same CoC three years running, despite feedback. The handling of 
issues last and year before that was non-existant (I can’t share details, 
obviously), so I have little hope, let alone cause to celebrate.

I’m not concerned about diversity, but people’s safety. The volunteer team is 
not equipped or even prepared to handle incidents concerning personal safety, 
and have in the past, exacerbated the problem even. We can talk diversity when 
we got safety done. Maslov’s hierarchy and all.


> To be blunt, as a young white man with a long beard, I think that you are in 
> a pretty good position to help that process. I don't agree that boycotting 
> the event is what's helpful.

I’ve spent my share the past three years trying to educate them to no avail. I 
personally don’t feel safe at their event. I just want to make sure people 
don’t go in without knowing this.


> With a great deal of help from Sharan, there's a Community devroom this year, 
> and there's a Documentation track that has community-focused talks, and I 
> feel like the event is making a concerted effort to improve this particular 
> aspect. But they're at the point in the process where they can use a lot of 
> help.
> 
> Having a CoC (even a well written one) is, as you are keenly aware, only part 
> of the larger picture. I'd love to see you (like, you, Jan, specifically) 
> stand up to volunteer to be part of the FOSDEM committee for 2018 to 
> specifically address this issue. I can't think of anyone better.

I’d suggest the devroom adapts this: http://confcodeofconduct.com (which I help 
maintain), or similar, if that doesn’t exist already. Other devrooms have had 
better CoCs than FOSDEM in general in the past, so making sure the ASF one is 
up to snuff is the least we can do.

This isn’t do distract from the hard work that goes into FOSDEM or the ASF 
devroom there, but this is the absolute minimum you need to do BEFORE you run 
an event these days.

Best
Jan
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