> We could represent these using the following set of KVs:
> 
> (“foo”, “active”) = true
> (“foo”, “owner”) = kCONFLICT
> (“foo”, “owner”, “1-abc”) = “alice”
> (“foo”, “owner”, “1-def”) = “bob”
I still cannot see how we can figure out if conflict for JSON path is present 
without reading previous revisions. The complex way of solving the issue is to 
use some sort of succinct atomically updated structure which we can quickly 
read. The structure would have to be capable of answering the following 
question:
- what are the hashes of different revisions of a subtree for a given json path



On 2019/02/04 23:22:09, Adam Kocoloski <kocol...@apache.org> wrote: 
> I think it’s fine to start a focused discussion here as it might help inform 
> some of the broader debate over in that thread.
> 
> As a reminder, today CouchDB writes the entire body of each document revision 
> on disk as a separate blob. Edit conflicts that have common fields between 
> them do not share any storage on disk. The revision tree is encoded into a 
> compact format and a copy of it is stored directly in both the by_id tree and 
> the by_seq tree. Each leaf entry in the revision tree contain a pointer to 
> the position of the associated doc revision on disk.
> 
> As a further reminder, CouchDB 2.x clusters can generate edit conflict 
> revisions just from multiple clients concurrently updating the same document 
> in a single cluster. This won’t happen when FoundationDB is running under the 
> hood, but users who deploy multiple CouchDB or PouchDB servers and replicate 
> between them can of course still produce conflicts just like they could in 
> CouchDB 1.x, so we need a solution.
> 
> Let’s consider the two sub-topics separately: 1) storage of edit conflict 
> bodies and 2) revision trees
> 
> ## Edit Conflict Storage
> 
> The simplest possible solution would be to store each document revision 
> separately, like we do today. We could store document bodies with (“docid”, 
> “revid”) as the key prefix, and each transaction could clear the key range 
> associated with the base revision against which the edit is being attempted. 
> This would work, but I think we can try to be a bit more clever and save on 
> storage space given that we’re splitting JSON documents into multiple KV 
> pairs.
> 
> One thought I’d had is to introduce a special enum Value which indicates that 
> the subtree “beneath” the given Key is in conflict. For example, consider the 
> documents
> 
> {
>     “_id”: “foo”,
>     “_rev”: “1-abc”,
>     “owner”: “alice”,
>     “active”: true
> }
> 
> and 
> 
> {
>     “_id”: “foo”,
>     “_rev”: “1-def”,
>     “owner”: “bob”,
>     “active”: true
> }
> 
> We could represent these using the following set of KVs:
> 
> (“foo”, “active”) = true
> (“foo”, “owner”) = kCONFLICT
> (“foo”, “owner”, “1-abc”) = “alice”
> (“foo”, “owner”, “1-def”) = “bob”
> 
> This approach also extends to conflicts where the two versions have different 
> data types. Consider a more complicated example where bob dropped the 
> “active” field and changed the “owner” field to an object:
> 
> {
>   “_id”: “foo”,
>   “_rev”: “1-def”,
>   “owner”: {
>     “name”: “bob”,
>     “email”: “b...@example.com"
>   }
> }
> 
> Now the set of KVs for “foo” looks like this (note that a missing field needs 
> to be handled explicitly):
> 
> (“foo”, “active”) = kCONFLICT
> (“foo”, “active”, “1-abc”) = true
> (“foo”, “active”, “1-def”) = kMISSING
> (“foo”, “owner”) = kCONFLICT
> (“foo”, “owner”, “1-abc”) = “alice”
> (“foo”, “owner”, “1-def”, “name”) = “bob”
> (“foo”, “owner”, “1-def”, “email”) = “b...@example.com”
> 
> I like this approach for the common case where documents share most of their 
> data in common but have a conflict in a very specific field or set of fields. 
> 
> I’ve encountered one important downside, though: an edit that replicates in 
> and conflicts with the entire document can cause a bit of a data explosion. 
> Consider a case where I have 10 conflicting versions of a 100KB document, but 
> the conflicts are all related to a single scalar value. Now I replicate in an 
> empty document, and suddenly I have a kCONFLICT at the root. In this model I 
> now need to list out every path of every one of the 10 existing revisions and 
> I end up with a 1MB update. Yuck. That’s technically no worse in the end 
> state than the “zero sharing” case above, but one could easily imagine 
> overrunning the transaction size limit this way.
> 
> I suspect there’s a smart path out of this. Maybe the system detects a 
> “default” value for each field and uses that instead of writing out the value 
> for every revision in a conflicted subtree. Worth some discussion.
> 
> ## Revision Trees
> 
> In CouchDB we currently represent revisions as a hash history tree; each 
> revision identifier is derived from the content of the revision including the 
> revision identifier of its parent. Individual edit branches are bounded in 
> *length* (I believe the default is 1000 entries), but the number of edit 
> branches is technically unbounded.
> 
> The size limits in FoundationDB preclude us from storing the entire key tree 
> as a single value; in pathological situations the tree could exceed 100KB. 
> Rather, I think it would make sense to store each edit *branch* as a separate 
> KV. We stem the branch long before it hits the value size limit, and in the 
> happy case of no edit conflicts this means we store the edit history metadata 
> in a single KV. It also means that we can apply an interactive edit without 
> retrieving the entire conflicted revision tree; we need only retrieve and 
> modify the single branch against which the edit is being applied. The 
> downside is that we duplicate historical revision identifiers shared by 
> multiple edit branches, but I think this is a worthwhile tradeoff.
> 
> I would furthermore try to structure the keys so that it is possible to 
> retrieve the “winning” revision in a single limit=1 range query. Ideally I’d 
> like to proide the following properties:
> 
> 1) a document read does not need to retrieve the revision tree at all, just 
> the winning revision identifier (which would be stored with the rest of the 
> doc)
> 2) a document update only needs to read the edit branch of the revision tree 
> against which the update is being applied, and it can read that branch 
> immediately knowing only the content of the edit that is being attempted 
> (i.e., it does not need to read the current version of the document itself).
> 
> So, I’d propose a separate subspace (maybe “_meta”?) for the revision trees, 
> with keys and values that look like
> 
> (“_meta”, DocID, IsDeleted, RevPosition, RevHash) = [ParentRev, 
> GrandparentRev, …]
> 
> The inclusion of IsDeleted, RevPosition and RevHash in the key should be 
> sufficient (with the right encoding) to create a range query that 
> automatically selects the “winner” according to CouchDB’s arcane rules, which 
> are something like
> 
> 1) deleted=false beats deleted=true
> 2) longer paths (i.e. higher RevPosition) beat shorter ones
> 3) RevHashes with larger binary values beat ones with smaller values
> 
> ===========
> 
> OK, that’s all on this topic from me for now. I think this is a particularly 
> exciting area where we start to see the dividends of splitting up data into 
> multiple KV pairs in FoundationDB :) Cheers,
> 
> Adam
> 
> 
> > On Feb 4, 2019, at 2:41 PM, Robert Newson <rnew...@apache.org> wrote:
> > 
> > This one is quite tightly coupled to the other thread on data model, should 
> > we start much conversation here before that one gets closer to a solution?
> > 
> > -- 
> >  Robert Samuel Newson
> >  rnew...@apache.org
> > 
> > On Mon, 4 Feb 2019, at 19:25, Ilya Khlopotov wrote:
> >> This is a beginning of a discussion thread about storage of edit 
> >> conflicts and everything which relates to revisions.
> >> 
> >> 
> 
> 

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