+1

> On 5. Mar 2019, at 21:18, Joan Touzet <woh...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> (Revised: The Reply-To field on the last email was incorrect. I am
> also including the diff of the proposed changes to this email per
> request.)
> 
> ------------
> 
> PMC Members,
> 
> This is a VOTE to create or amend our official documents.
> 
> It establishes a new Request For Comments (RFC) process through which
> all major changes to Apache CouchDB must pass.
> 
> This includes modifying the Bylaws to explain the process, as well as
> adding the new RFC template.
> 
> There are also minor changes proposed to the Bylaws to improve links to
> external information resources, such as the new Pony Mail mailing list
> interface.
> 
> The git branch with the proposed changes is here:
> 
>  https://github.com/apache/couchdb-www/compare/asf-site...add-rfc
> 
> Two commits have been used to make it clearer which changes are purely
> cosmetic, and which directly affect the text of the bylaws.
> 
> An important note: this vote explicitly excludes the mechanics of the
> process in GitHub, focusing only on the proposal and voting procedures.
> (Whether we store the RFCs in our main tree or the docs tree, and
> whether we use issues or PRs for them don't have to go in the bylaws.)
> 
> Per our process, this vote occurs on the Main development list (dev@),
> and requires a Lazy 2/3 majority, meaning it requires three binding +1
> votes and twice as many binding +1 votes as binding -1 votes. Only PMC
> Members can vote on this issue, and no veto is allowed.
> 
> This vote will run for one week, ending on 12 March 2019 23:59 UTC.
> 
> -Joan
> 
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> diff --git a/bylaws.html b/bylaws.html
> index 77ad2c0..4aea136 100644
> --- a/bylaws.html
> +++ b/bylaws.html
> @@ -8,7 +8,8 @@
> 
> <h1>CouchDB Bylaws</h1>
> 
> -<p><em>This document was officially adopted by the CouchDB PMC as of 31 July 
> 2014.</em>
> +<p><em>This document was officially adopted by the CouchDB PMC as of 31 July 
> 2014.</em></p>
> +<p>A full changelog is available <a 
> href="https://github.com/apache/couchdb-www/commits/asf-site/bylaws.html";>on 
> GitHub</a>.</p>
> 
> <h2>Table of Contents</h2>
> 
> @@ -35,7 +36,7 @@
> 
> <p>We value the community more than the code. A strong and healthy community 
> should be a fun and rewarding place for everyone involved. Code, and 
> everything else that goes with that code, will be produced by a healthy 
> community over time.
> 
> -<p>The direction of the project and the decisions we make are up to you. If 
> you are participating on <a 
> href="https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#couchdb";>the mailing 
> lists</a> you have the right to make decisions. All decisions about the 
> project are taken on the mailing lists. There are no lead developers, nor is 
> there any one person in charge.
> +<p>The direction of the project and the decisions we make are up to you. If 
> you are participating on <a 
> href="https://couchdb.apache.org/#mailing-lists";>the mailing lists</a> you 
> have the right to make decisions. All decisions about the project are taken 
> on the mailing lists. There are no lead developers, nor is there any one 
> person in charge.
> 
> <p>Anyone can subscribe to the public mailing lists, and in fact, you are 
> encouraged to do so. The development mailing list is not just for developers, 
> for instance. It is for anyone who is interested in the development of the 
> project. Everybody's voice is welcome.
> 
> @@ -59,7 +60,7 @@
> 
> <p><strong>The most important participants in the project are people who use 
> our software.</strong>
> 
> -<p>Users can participate by talking about the project, providing feedback, 
> and helping others. This can be done at the ASF or elsewhere, and includes 
> being active on <a 
> href="https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/couchdb-user/";>the user 
> mailing list</a>, third-party support forums, blogs, and social media. Users 
> who participate in this way automatically become contributors.
> +<p>Users can participate by talking about the project, providing feedback, 
> and helping others. This can be done at the ASF or elsewhere, and includes 
> being active on <a 
> href="https://lists.apache.org/list.html?u...@couchdb.apache.org";>the user 
> mailing list</a>, third-party support forums, blogs, and social media. Users 
> who participate in this way automatically become contributors.
> 
>   <h3 id="contributors">2.2. Contributors</h3>
> 
> @@ -152,9 +153,9 @@
> 
> <p>Our goal is to build a community of trust, reduce mailing list traffic, 
> and deal with disagreements swiftly when they occur.
> 
> -<p>All decision making must happen on <a 
> href="https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#couchdb";>the mailing 
> lists</a>. Any discussion that takes place away from the lists (for example 
> on IRC or in person) must be brought to the lists before anything can be 
> decided. We have a saying: if it's not on the lists, it didn't happen. We 
> take this approach so that the greatest amount of people have a chance to 
> participate.
> +<p>All decision making must happen on <a 
> href="https://couchdb.apache.org/#mailing-lists";>the mailing lists</a>. Any 
> discussion that takes place away from the lists (for example on IRC or in 
> person) must be brought to the lists before anything can be decided. We have 
> a saying: if it's not on the lists, it didn't happen. We take this approach 
> so that the greatest amount of people have a chance to participate.
> 
> -<p>Decisions should be made on the mailing list associated with the 
> decision. For example, marketing decisions happen on <a 
> href="https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/couchdb-marketing/";>the 
> marketing list</a>. By default, anything without a specific list should be 
> done in public on the main development list. Anything that needs to be 
> private will be done on the private list.
> +<p>Decisions should be made on the mailing list associated with the 
> decision. For example, marketing decisions happen on <a 
> href="https://lists.apache.org/list.html?market...@couchdb.apache.org";>the 
> marketing list</a>. By default, anything without a specific list should be 
> done in public on the main development list. Anything that needs to be 
> private will be done on the private list.
> 
> <p>Our decision making processes are designed to reduce blockages. It is 
> understood that people come and go as time permits. It is not practical to 
> hear from everybody on every decision. Sometimes, this means a decision will 
> be taken while you are away from the project. It is reasonable to bring such 
> decisions up for discussion again, but this should be kept to a minimum.
> 
> @@ -177,7 +178,7 @@
> 
> <p>For this to work properly, active committers are expected to be paying 
> attention to the project. Objecting a long time after a change has been made 
> may require large amounts of additional work to be thrown away or redone.
> 
> -<p>Sometimes, you might not be sure what the community would want. If this 
> is the case, you can post a note to the appropriate <a 
> href="https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#couchdb";>mailing list</a> 
> with an outline of what you intend to do. If nobody objects after 72 hours, 
> you can safely assume consensus and proceed with your plan.
> +<p>Sometimes, you might not be sure what the community would want. If this 
> is the case, you can post a note to the appropriate <a 
> href="https://couchdb.apache.org/#mailing-lists";>mailing list</a> with an 
> outline of what you intend to do. If nobody objects after 72 hours, you can 
> safely assume consensus and proceed with your plan.
> 
> <p>An important side effect of this policy is that <em>silence is 
> assent</em>. There is no need for discussion, and no need for agreement to be 
> voiced. If you make a proposal to the list and nobody responds, that should 
> be interpreted as implicit support for your idea, and not a lack of interest. 
> This can be hard to get used to, but is an important part of how we do things.
> 
> @@ -251,7 +252,7 @@
>     </tr>
>   </table>
> 
> -<p>There are three types of voting: informal, formal, and vetos. An informal 
> vote is a quick way to get people's feelings on something. A formal vote, on 
> the other hand, requires an approval model and a <a 
> href="#decisions">decision type</a>. More detail on <a 
> href="#approval">approval models</a>, <a href="#rtc">vetos</a>, and <a 
> href="types">decision types</a> is available in sections 3.4, 3.5., and 3.6 
> respectively.
> +<p>There are three types of voting: informal, formal, and vetos. An informal 
> vote is a quick way to get people's feelings on something. A formal vote, on 
> the other hand, requires an approval model and a <a 
> href="#decisions">decision type</a>. More detail on <a 
> href="#approval">approval models</a>, <a href="#rtc">RTC and technical 
> vetos</a>, <a href="#rfc">RFCs</a>, <a href="#api">API changes and 
> deprecations</a> and <a href="#types">decision types</a> is available in the 
> following sections.
> 
> <p>All formal voting must be done in an email thread with the appropriate <a 
> href="#tags">subject tag</a>. Formal votes may contain multiple items for 
> approval and these should be clearly separated. Formal voting is then carried 
> out by replying to the vote mail. Formal votes are open for a period of at 
> least 72 hours to allow all active voters time to consider the vote. Votes 
> can be held open longer than this at the discretion of the person who 
> initiated the vote.
> 
> @@ -286,11 +287,9 @@
> 
> <p>For electing a new Chair, the PMC may opt to use <em>Single Transferable 
> Vote</em> (STV) which comes with its own rules. <a 
> href="http://steve.apache.org/";>Apache STeVe</a> was specifically designed to 
> enable this process.
> 
> -<h3 id="rtc">3.5. Review-Then-Commit, API Changes and Technical Vetos</h3>
> +<h3 id="rtc">3.5. Review-Then-Commit and Technical Vetos</h3>
> 
> -<p>Typically, CouchDB uses the <a 
> href="http://www.apache.org/foundation/glossary.html#ReviewThenCommit";>Review-Then-Commit</a>
>  (<em>RTC</em>) model of code collaboration. RTC allows work to proceed on 
> separate feature or bugfix branches, and requires at least one other 
> developer to review and approve the changes before they are committed to a 
> release branch. A release branch is any branch that a release might be 
> prepared from, such as <code>master</code>, <code>1.6.x</code>, and so on. 
> Notifications of these changes are sent to <a 
> href="https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/couchdb-commits/";>the commits 
> mailing list</a>. It is expected that the rest of the community is regularly 
> reviewing these changes.
> -
> -<p>Whenever a change is proposed to a release branch or <code>master</code> 
> that removes or changes an existing HTTP API endpoint in a way that breaks 
> backwards compatibility with a released version of CouchDB, the proposed 
> change <strong><em>must</em> be announced on the developer mailing list, and 
> a minimum of a <a href="#lazy">lazy consensus</a> decision is 
> required.</strong> This policy is not intended to preserve bugs in HTTP API 
> endpoints across released versions of CouchDB in perpetuity, nor shall it be 
> used to assert consistency of undocumented, implementation-specific behaviour 
> across major releases. Additions of new endpoints, or changes that do not 
> affect backwards compatibility, do not require this notification and process, 
> but announcement to the developer mailing list is still strongly 
> encouraged.</p>
> +<p>Typically, CouchDB uses the <a 
> href="http://www.apache.org/foundation/glossary.html#ReviewThenCommit";>Review-Then-Commit</a>
>  (<em>RTC</em>) model of code collaboration. RTC allows work to proceed on 
> separate feature or bugfix branches, and requires at least one other 
> developer to review and approve the changes before they are committed to a 
> release branch. A release branch is any branch that a release might be 
> prepared from, such as <code>master</code>, <code>1.6.x</code>, and so on. 
> Notifications of these changes are sent to <a 
> href="https://lists.apache.org/list.html?comm...@couchdb.apache.org";>the 
> commits mailing list</a>, with GitHub discussion appearing on <a 
> href="https://lists.apache.org/list.html?notificati...@couchdb.apache.org";>the
>  notifications mailing list</a>. It is expected that the rest of the 
> community is regularly reviewing these changes.
> 
> <p><strong>Any change made to a release branch or to the <code>master</code> 
> branch is a <em>technical decision</em> of the project. If a committer wants 
> to object to a technical decision, they have the option of casting a -1 vote. 
> We call this a veto.</strong> Vetos can only be made for technical reasons. A 
> -1 vote is not considered a veto in any other context. Vetos should be used 
> sparingly, and only after careful consideration.
> 
> @@ -308,7 +307,25 @@
> 
> <p>If the discussion did not reach consensus, Alice could challenge the 
> validity of Bob's justification. At that point, the PMC would vote on the 
> issue. If the PMC found that the justification was valid, Alice would have to 
> revert the change or petition Bob to withdraw the veto. If the PMC found the 
> justification invalid, the veto is null and void.
> 
> -<h3 id="types">3.6. Decision Types</h3>
> +<h3 id="rfc">3.6 Request For Comment (RFC) process</h3>
> +
> +For major changes to the fuctionality of CouchDB, a Request For Comment 
> (RFC) process has been established. The intent of an RFC is to ensure 
> sufficient public discussion has occurred on the design of new features, that 
> the proposal is adequately captured in a summary document, and that there is 
> community acceptance of the proposal. The completed RFC template for the 
> proposal then becomes the basis for the new functionality's documentation.
> +
> +The process is:
> +
> +  <ul>
> +    <li>Start a [DISCUSS] thread on <a 
> href="https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@couchdb.apache.org";>the 
> developer mailing list</a>. Discuss your proposal in detail, including which 
> modules/applications are affected, any HTTP API additions and deprecations, 
> and security issues.</li>
> +    <li>When there is consensus on the approach from the community, <a 
> href="https://s.apache.org/CouchDB-RFC";>complete the RFC template</a> and 
> work through any final revisions to the document, with the support of the 
> developer mailing list.</li>
> +    <li>Start the RFC <strong>vote</strong> on the developer mailing list. 
> Hold the vote according to the <em>lazy majority process</em>: at least 3 +1 
> votes, and more binding +1 than binding -1 votes.</li>
> +  </ul>
> +
> +<h3 id="api">3.7 API changes and deprecations</h3>
> +
> +<p>Whenever a change is proposed to a release branch or <code>master</code> 
> that removes or changes an existing HTTP API endpoint in a way that breaks 
> backwards compatibility with a released version of CouchDB, the proposed 
> change <strong><em>must</em> be announced on <a 
> href="https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@couchdb.apache.org";>the 
> developer mailing list</a>, and a minimum of a <a href="#lazy">lazy 
> consensus</a> decision is required.</strong>
> +
> +<p>This policy is not intended to preserve bugs in HTTP API endpoints across 
> released versions of CouchDB in perpetuity, nor shall it be used to assert 
> consistency of undocumented, implementation-specific behaviour across major 
> releases. Additions of new endpoints that fall short of the need for an RFC, 
> or changes that do not affect backwards compatibility, do not require this 
> notification and process, but announcement to the developer mailing list is 
> still strongly encouraged.</p>
> +
> +<h3 id="types">3.8. Decision Types</h3>
> 
> <p><strong>This section describes the various decision types and the rules 
> that apply to them.</strong></p>
> 
> @@ -326,12 +343,22 @@
>     <tr>
>       <td>Technical decision
>       <td>A technical decision is any change made to a release branch.
> -      <td><a 
> href="https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/couchdb-commits/";>Commits 
> list</a>
> +      <td><a 
> href="https://lists.apache.org/list.html?comm...@couchdb.apache.org";>Commits 
> list</a>
>       <td>Allowed for trivial changes
>       <td>RTC
>       <td>No
>       <td>Committers
> -      <td> Yes
> +      <td>Yes
> +    </tr>
> +    <tr>
> +      <td>Request For Comments (RFC) decision
> +      <td>A decision on a specific proposal to alter CouchDB in a 
> significant way.
> +      <td><a 
> href="https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@couchdb.apache.org";>Main 
> development list</a>
> +      <td>No
> +      <td>Lazy majority
> +      <td>No
> +      <td>Committers
> +      <td>No
>     </tr>
>     <tr>
>       <td>Non-technical decision
> @@ -354,7 +381,7 @@
>    <br>
>    <br>
>    A veto is only valid when it is justified with a sound technical argument.
> -      <td><a 
> href="https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/couchdb-dev/";>Main 
> development list</a>
> +      <td><a 
> href="https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@couchdb.apache.org";>Main 
> development list</a>
>       <td>No
>       <td>Lazy 2/3 majority
>       <td>No
> @@ -368,7 +395,7 @@
>    <br>
>    <br>
>    Release candidates can be prepared by anyone.
> -      <td><a 
> href="https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/couchdb-dev/";>Main 
> development list</a>
> +      <td><a 
> href="https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@couchdb.apache.org";>Main 
> development list</a>
>       <td>No
>       <td>Lazy majority
>       <td>No
> @@ -446,7 +473,7 @@
>     <tr>
>       <td>Create or amend official document
>       <td>Create or amend any document marked as official.
> -      <td><a 
> href="https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/couchdb-dev/";>Main 
> development list</a>
> +      <td><a 
> href="https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@couchdb.apache.org";>Main 
> development list</a>
>       <td>No
>       <td>Lazy 2/3 majority
>       <td>No

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