An additional thought:

if a bus is being created 'by magic', refer to it softly, either
default or per-thread.

If someone, on the other hand, makes an _explicit_ call to set a
default bus, reference it strongly.


On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I just realized that I didn't really do the whole job. Arguable, the
> per-thread busses should be sitting in a
>
> WeakHashMap<Thread, Reference<Bus>>, with SoftReferences. Otherwise,
> the implicit bus hangs around just as effectively as it's creating
> thread's default bus.
>
> That make sense?
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 3:06 AM, Alessio Soldano <asold...@redhat.com> wrote:
>> Hi Benson,
>> don't get me wrong, I'm fine with the changes, just saying that this needs
>> to be documented :-)
>> Cheers
>> Alessio
>>
>> On 11/22/2010 07:43 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
>>>
>>> But the GC will only hammer you if you are low on memory, no?
>>> Particularly if it's soft. If you are that low on memory, isn't
>>> recreating the CXF bus all the time the least of your performance
>>> problems?
>>>
>>> I feel a need to win an argument here; I'll change to Soft, and if you
>>> don't want to migrate, don't migrate.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Alessio Soldano<asold...@redhat.com>
>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> +1 on adding this to the migration notes, this could be a major change
>>>> for
>>>> those just using jaxws api
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/22/2010 05:34 PM, Daniel Kulp wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday 20 November 2010 4:18:29 pm Benson Margulies wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's not weak. Nothing ever sets it to null. I propose to declare it
>>>>>> as a WeakReference.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are SOME usage patterns that this change would make much slower.
>>>>> I'm
>>>>> thinking of the case where you use the pure JAX-WS API's and just
>>>>>  create
>>>>> clients as needed, make a call, discard the client.    In that case, the
>>>>> Bus
>>>>> would then be dereferenced and GC'd.   That would cause everything that
>>>>> it
>>>>> caches (like the WSDL's) to also be GC'd.  Thus, the next client to be
>>>>> created
>>>>> needs to re-create it all.     Obviously the workaround is to have them
>>>>> hold
>>>>> the bus strongly someplace (or re-use the proxies), but it is a behavior
>>>>> change.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think I'd suggest two things:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) This should only be done on trunk (and migration note it for 2.4)
>>>>> 2) Change to a SoftReference, not a WeakReference.   Should mitigate the
>>>>> issue
>>>>> a bit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Alessio Soldano
>>>> Web Service Lead, JBoss
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Alessio Soldano
>> Web Service Lead, JBoss
>>
>>
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