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> On Jan 16, 2020, at 5:03 PM, leerho <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> I was reserving private@ for personnel type issues (e.g., new committers, 
> etc.).  It didn't occur to me to separate dev from private by technical work 
> vs PMC work, since the quarterly reports are also public.   So you are saying 
> even the QR discussion should be on private because it is primarily for the 
> PMC?

Where the public parts of the report are discussed is up to the PMC. I see the 
following three cases since I’ve been on the Board through a full quarter:

(1) Public discussion.

(2) Private discussion. Required if there is an open security, 
personnel/personal, and trademark issue. If a podling has one of these then 
we’ll need to work with the IPMC Chair since the podling report process is 
public and they submit a report to the board through private channels.

(3) Chair just submits. Podlings have no Chair and Mentors must approve.

Since not enough is happening I suggest (1) in order to work towards using 
dev@. We have a few weeks. Absolutely the best reports are those that come from 
the whole community. The Board lives reports that frankly discuss what is 
happening in the community: events, releases, new contributors, development 
velocity or stagnation, etc. Challenges and what the (P)PMC members are doing 
to address them.

Any of the above methods will be visible to any of the 700+ Apache Software 
Foundation Members Including future members. These are archived and it’s not 
recorded who accesses the archives. Public mailing lists are archived by others 
outside of the ASF. Someone might look in 15 years in any of the mailing lists. 
I know I have looked at some project’s archives.

Best Regards,
Dave

> 
>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 2:24 PM Kenneth Knowles <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 9:38 AM leerho <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Attached are modifications to the Quarterly Report (thank you Dave!).  
>>> 
>>> Any more thoughts? Anyone?
>> 
>> Dave said it all. Use dev@ for dev (clearly dev work is happening) and 
>> private@ for PMC business (which presumes the PMC has business to take care 
>> of - new committers / PPMC members to consider).
>> 
>> Kenn
>>  
>>  
>>>> Answer to Dave's question: Have any candidates for committer or PPMC 
>>>> membership been seen anywhere?
>>> 
>>> No, not yet. 
>>> 
>>> Lee.
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 8:21 AM Dave Fisher <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Hi -
>>>> 
>>>> Items #1 and #2 on what to improve are really the same. A proper #2 should 
>>>> be to have more substantive technical discussions on the dev@datasketches 
>>>> mailing list rather than a Google group. The mailing list should be the 
>>>> most prominent way to connect with the project and not the least 
>>>> (according to the Group page)
>>>> 
>>>> Please include information in the report about activity levels on slack 
>>>> and google groups.
>>>> 
>>>> Have any candidates for committer or PPMC membership been seen anywhere? 
>>>> If so then please start a discussion on private@. If not then a discussion 
>>>> on dev@ should proceed about what the project is looking for and how 
>>>> someone could earn merit.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dave
>>>> 
>>>> > On Jan 15, 2020, at 6:45 PM, leerho <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> > 
>>>> > Folks,
>>>> > This is my first cut at a draft report that needs to be completed by Feb 
>>>> > 5th End-of-day.
>>>> > 
>>>> > Please, please -- feel free to edit, revise or add comments. 
>>>> > 
>>>> > Whimsy and other tool expect the report to formatted in a certain way so 
>>>> > please make sure that you try to:
>>>> >         • Keep all lines under 76 characters long.
>>>> >         • All content under the ### headings should be indented by two 
>>>> > spaces. Do not use tabs.
>>>> >         • Please don't change the text in the headings or add new ones.
>>>> >         • Include a space after a bullet point or full stop on a 
>>>> > numbered list.
>>>> >         • Use [X] (X and no spaces) to sign off reports.
>>>> > 
>>>> > It might be easier if you give me the section and text you want to edit 
>>>> > or add to and I will merge it into a master markdown.
>>>> > 
>>>> > Thanks!
>>>> > 
>>>> > Lee.
>>>> > 
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