Hi Dies,

I did not mean the API between IaaS providers and DeltaCloud because I don't 
see providers such as Amazon EC2 supporting CIMI at least in the sort run, but 
the API DeltaCloud users use to communicate with DeltaCloud abstracting 
themselves from each IaaS provider own API.

If CIMI gets really spread I guess some IaaS software projects, open-source 
mainly, will start supporting CIMI, either as their only available API or as an 
secondary API. For instance, there is a working group adding OCCI support on 
OpenStack[1]. While some providers may opt to offer a standard cloud API (OCCI 
or CIMI) to their services, others just won't because that would somehow mean 
easing interoperability with competitor cloud vendors, giving up of their 
vendor lock-in strategy and hence loosing money - that's my point of view :-)

So, no, I don't see DeltaCloud getting obsolete, ever (?).

Hope I've answered all your questions. If not, please let me know and I'll 
rephrase.

Thanks,
Carlos Goncalves

[1] http://occi-wg.org/2012/02/14/occi-in-openstack/

On 3 May 2012, at 14:14, Koper, Dies wrote:

> Hi Carlos,
> 
> I wonder how many cloud providers will support the CIMI API.
> If all DMTF members will support it, wouldn't that render DC obsolete?
> If few DMTF members will actually support it, what is the real benefit to 
> users for DC to be CIMI -only?
> 
> Are you assuming it will take a long time for the members to release their 
> respective CIMI implementations (as it took them a long time to publish the 
> standard) and DC's objective should be to bridge that period?
> 
> Regards,
> Dies Koper
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Carlos Gonçalves [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Thursday, 3 May 2012 8:48 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: DeltaCloud API and CIMI
>> 
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> As suggested by Marios on IRC the other day, I'm opening here a new
>> thread for max discussion on the subject of the future of DeltaCloud in
>> terms of APIs available to the user. The question is short, though I foresee
>> complex and perhaps political answers due to the nature of the topic.
>> 
>> Currently DeltaCloud supports two APIs: its own API and CIMI API. They are
>> not interoperable between them, and neither have been standardized yet.
>> CIMI is just a step away from being officially released as a first final 
>> version
>> (1.0.0) cloud standard by DMTF, where DeltaCloud API has not yet even
>> been proposed to be one as far as I know.
>> 
>> Until very recently I though CIMI support on DeltaCloud was somewhat a
>> trivial and an "automagically" translation from/to DeltaCloud API but I've
>> been proven to mistaken when I gave Marios' new OpenStack v2 driver a
>> spin using CIMI. This led me to question of whether DeltaCloud should
>> support both APIs or just focus on just one, with CIMI being the most
>> logical model and interface to be adopted rather DeltaCloud's own.
>> 
>> I believe the possible move to CIMI-only would bump the project visibility
>> but would require a major code rewritten, I suppose.
>> 
>> So, thoughts on this? :-)
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Carlos Goncalves
>> 
> 
> 

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