true romain

i think the most features can you go into the the spec (e.g. CDI event
broadcast of JSF events should be in JSF directly)
i think the biggest module is Data, which cant be easily put into JPA

Am Sa., 11. Sept. 2021 um 18:42 Uhr schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau <
[email protected]>:

> Well transitive dep issue is solved with proper boms.
> Think we should ask ourselves the future of DS.
> Im not fully convinced of the added value these days in current IT
> ecosystem so maybe it should be split in subprojects and some full parts
> dropped or given to other asf projects?
>
> Le sam. 11 sept. 2021 à 17:29, Thomas Andraschko <
> [email protected]> a écrit :
>
> > see:
> >
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DELTASPIKE-1376?jql=project%20%3D%20DELTASPIKE%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%202.0
> >
> > Am Sa., 11. Sept. 2021 um 17:25 Uhr schrieb Thomas Andraschko <
> > [email protected]>:
> >
> > > +1
> > >
> > > i created some jira tickets for it 1-2 years ago
> > >
> > > Am Sa., 11. Sept. 2021 um 14:58 Uhr schrieb Cody Lerum <
> > > [email protected]>:
> > >
> > >> +1
> > >>
> > >> 1.9.x seems very stable with minimal updates so it is unlikely to be
> > >> much of a burden to keep it alive for pre-Jakarta use.
> > >>
> > >> I could see some people say setting a JDK 17 minimum would be
> > >> aggressive, but those starting new Jakarta projects or going through
> > >> the upgrade work for an older project should really be moving up to
> > >> it.
> > >>
> > >> -C
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 6:48 AM Mark Struberg
> <[email protected]
> > >
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Hi folks!
> > >> >
> > >> > There was a bunch of user requests on the mailing list  to add
> support
> > >> for Jakarta enterprise namespaces.
> > >> > I tried to implement this via shading but it seems not to be
> > sufficient.
> > >> > The problem with shading is that the poms only have classifier to
> > >> access deltaspike.
> > >> > This is especially a problem with transitive dependencies.
> > >> >
> > >> > The other point is that we had many discussions about shipping an
> > >> upgraded version of DeltaSpike and deprecate/remove some obsolete
> APIs.
> > >> > So let's go big and why not move up to jakartaEE namespace and
> Java17
> > >> at the same time?
> > >> >
> > >> > Potential candidates for dropping coming to my mind:
> > >> >
> > >> > .) BeanManagerProvider/BeanProvider. We historically kept this for 2
> > >> reasons. 1.) backward compatibility with CDI-1.0, 2.) in EARs this is
> > still
> > >> the only way which works to properly access the BeanManager on all
> > >> containers. CDI.current() is sadly broken in EARs in almost all
> > containers.
> > >> But since EARs might go away in JakartaEE anyways, I'm fine with
> > dropping
> > >> it.
> > >> >
> > >> > .) servlet module. Injecting the various servlet information objects
> > >> like HttpServletRequest, HttpSession etc is nowadays specified by the
> > CDI
> > >> spec as well.
> > >> >
> > >> > .) Many parts of the JSF module are nowadays not needed anymore as
> > >> well. Remember the times when there was no injection into
> PhaseListeners
> > >> and FacesConverters? We did have support for it since ages, the spec
> > added
> > >> this much later, but they finally did.
> > >> >
> > >> > .) bean validation module. Those parts are imo all part of the spec
> > >> nowadays
> > >> >
> > >> > .) scheduler. I'm not sure about that one. It probably would make
> > sense
> > >> to implement an own smallish scheduler based on ScheduledExecutor
> > instead
> > >> of going fully blown quartz?
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > wdyt?
> > >> >
> > >> > I'd go on and create a new umbrella ticket for all the work.
> > >> >
> > >> > LieGrue,
> > >> > strub
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> >
>

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