> The JCL team has been invited to discuss each and every > item specifically on http://www.qos.ch/logging/classloader.jsp
And they have. And there is work. The JCL traffic has been quite significant ever since the WebSphere folks popped up. IIRC, not too long ago, Ceki was pushing for Logging Services to take over Commons Logging and replace it with his UGLI, which he later renamed and moved away from the ASF ... renaming it "SLF4J". ref: http://logging.apache.org/log4j/docs/ugli.html The threads are in the archives. To quote one sane person: "it would be great if someone could find a way through the politics and history." In the meantime, we should deal with real technical issues, and not FUD. We can start with SLF4J if that's what everyone wants, and just do a global search and replace to use commons logging later, once the new release is ready. --- Noel
