For what it is worth: I see something beautiful emerging.

+1

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Pierre Smits

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On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Emmanuel Lécharny <elecha...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Le 22/04/15 12:28, Steve Moyer a écrit :
> > I think we've spent enough time rehashing the past ...
>
> Absolutely.
>
> > let me just say
> > that I think things would have gone a lot differently if there'd been an
> > easy way to provide a repository branch for us to check code into.
> Sadly, this is not the way it works at The ASF. Let me tell you though
> that it would have been a matter of two weeks to proceed with the
> original injection of the code 2 years ago.
>
> >  On
> > the other hand, I can certainly understand why you don't want to change
> > your infrastructure every time someone pops into the IRC channel - SVN
> > doesn't make it so easy to limit permissions and you probably see a
> > hundred people a month come by then disappear (like I seemed to do).
> We now have git, too, and that makes it extra easy to inject code,
> keeping the full history.
>
> But it's also a matter of voting in the new committer. We are pretty
> liberal about this, it's just a vote. Serioulsy, this is really a
> limited task, with a few paperwork :
> - we vote the proposal and the committer(s)
> - if the vote is positive, then the new committer(s) are required to
> fill a ICLA or a CCLA (if they are working for a company)
> - once the I/CCLA has been received and registred, the account is requested
> - when the account is created, we assign the correct rights and we are
> done.
>
> Since 2013, the process is even faster, and I would say that it can be
> done in 3 to 5 days, max.
>
> >
> > I'm also not debating the use of the work forked ... just pointing out
> > that Kiran and I decided *together* our approaches, while both valid
> > ways to tackle the problem, were not compatible enough to live in one
> > project.  There was a reason we went looking for an OSS Java-based SCIM
> > project ... we can chat on IRC in a couple hours (once I'm in the
> office).
> I think that it would be a good idea to expose the difference of both
> approaches. I can understand you have a slightly divergence from the
> spec, and that it makes it a different beast, while Kiran deicded to
> stick to the specs (AFAIU), but pease, feel free to correct me if I am
> wrong.
>
> I'm quite sure that Kiran - or any one of us ! - would be pleased to see
> a better version of what we are working on to replace what we are
> currently coding : I do think that pride should never be a criterium
> when it comes to code.
> >
> > Assuming Shawn (my boss) still wants to push forward with Apache
> > Directory, there is the issue of having two SCIM implementations in one
> > project ... I guess the value propositions of each would need to be
> > clearly stated?
> Absolutely. For those of us (and that includes me) who are not knees
> deep into SCIM, that would be extremely helpful.
>
>
> > I'd like to see wide-spread SCIM adoption, so we
> > certainly don't want to spread any confusion.
>
> +1
>
> Thanks Steve !
>
>

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