On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 6:12 PM Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com> wrote:

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> On 2019/06/19 15:12:42, William A Rowe Jr <w...@rowe-clan.net> wrote:
> > I am not understanding how other members investing their individual
> energy>
> > into a new initiative translates into your valuation or scorn?
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> If that was all, then I agree. I would have no reason nor basis to say
> anything.
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> But that is not it.
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> Instead, they are asking to spend ASF funds and bypass/work-around a long
> standing tenet. It is much more than just investing 'individual energy'.
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> Pretend, for example, that I am interested in learning more Kotlin and
> investing my individual energy in doing so. No big deal right? Now pretend
> in doing so, I want the ASF to pay for someone to train me. At that point,
> it becomes much more than me just investing my own individual energy. It is
> expecting the ASF to fund my education, my learning, my development, my
> knowledge. I would fully expect such a scenario to cause... heartburn.
>

Lets assume the ASF pays for your Kotlin training. Lets also take it you
are a hard working individual and you now know Kotlin. Lets say you decided
that for the next few months you will spend every weekend training a small
group of  say 10 people using your newly learnt Kotlin skills. Now what you
might not see is that some of those people you have trained will go on to
train others..You see... Network effect. Growth here over 10 years is not
linear but exponential(if you told every person you trained to also train a
few others, a few people will do it and others will selfishly not do it).
But the few who do are part of a network. How does this help the ASF? and
how does this relate to Outreachy? you might ask. This is a straight
forward answer.

Every new Under represented person you empower is a potential data
point(noo...really a node) on a graph. They will go on to empower more
people like them maybe helped by unconscious bias.
For the $5000 spent for an Outreachy Intern, you are potentially creating a
whole new sub graph of its own which develops organically.

I don't know if this makes any sense to you all?

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