Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
I'm cross-posting this to Docs, in case someone there (who doesn't read the Authors list) might know of some resources for Gary and me.

Gary Schnabl wrote:
Is there some documentation of disclosed or undisclosed information of whatever options Writer has for setting type? MS Word has a number of such options which can be used by an editor to tweak the text. What I have been experimenting with the past couple weeks (with Word 2007) is attempting to lay out text manually much like a printer might. This means that the orphan/widow control is disabled and the leading for all paragraph styles is constant (and generally multiples of the lowest leading value--typically 13.2 pt (120%) for an 11 pt font size, for example.

For those times when the text doesn't fit the bottom of the page perfectly, some tweaking of the interparagraph spacing is used (e.g., 1/2 and 1 1/2 leading value). However, for those books where there is not any real space between text bodies, this may cause some problems. Usually, the most problems might arise mostly for three-line paragraphs--if an objective is to not allow an widows or orphans.

Does anybody have any practical experience with this, and is there a body of literature anywhere with some suggestions as it pertains to Writer specifically?

By coincidence, I was just starting to investigate typesetting
features, tweaks, and workarounds in Writer. So far I haven't looked at vertical tweaks (leading, line spacing, para spacing, and so on), but that's next on my list. If I find something, I'll let you know. Please do the same!

What I have been looking for is a way to define a paragraph style with
a different character style (for example, all caps) for the first
word. I know how to manually apply a character style, of course, but
I'd like to have it part of the para style. Drops caps would do the job, but drop caps have a minimum height of 2 lines. Perhaps someone's produced a macro for this purpose? I didn't spot anything in the Extensions repository (though I could have missed it), but I have a lot of other places to search. If someone can point me in the right direction, that would be great.

--Jean
Some observations...

The manner I initially set up a page design is to set a fixed number of lines of solid text for a particular paper size. I tend to use the "perfectly proportioned" margin scheme that is described on About.com. Because we're dealing with a print doc (e.g., book), a gutter is necessary--around 20 pt. I use 18 pt a lot because printers want one about that size. My overall goal is to have the last line on each and every page align perfectly at the bottom. Because constant leading is used, the lines on opposing pages should also register perfectly, if done well.

I have produced a spreadsheet where the independent variable is the number of lines of body text for a certain paper size. The mathematics for setting the margins is all performed by the spreadsheet. However, in order to keep the left/right margins to integer figures, instead of something to the nearest 1/100 of a point, I take up the slop of the fractional margins in the gutter--having the gutter to a value where the horizontal margins are integers and thereby, the usable width is also an integer.

If you see an attractive typographical layout, you are free to copy it because typographical issues are not covered by copyright (unless they're covered in a book about typography...). There is an electronic ruler where one could actually measure the dimensions and such of PDFs on screen and the like. It's called Cool Ruler--Google it for a free download.

Both Writer and Word are not good typesetting applications. However, I tend to initially use Writer and then see how well Word "copies" the Writer layout, as Writer is more flexible than Word. But if the client wants decent typesetting, that should be done with FrameMaker (especially if cross-refs are needed), InDesign (doesn't do x-refs), or QwarkXPress after the final version sent to the printer is converted from Word.

I might describe much of the finer points on my temporarily inactive blog or forum sites. I am in the final stages of transforming a 100 MB DOC file of a Cisco CCNA network-engineer book layout for an SME in the UK.

It now has some 528 A4 pages on the PDF produced from Word and sent to Lulu. I initially converted the DOC sources to Writer and worked there applying the paragraph styles and then had the author figure out how he wanted his headings to go. (The initial layout was a mess...)

After it looked OK, and a few trial PDFs were ported from Writer, the ODT source was reconverted back to Word--now only 43 MB. The last phase is typesetting it using FrameMaker--this time with linked graphics for the 190 figures. We'll then see how much better it will appear and handle with FrameMaker. The FM template is finished and a skeleton book with ToC for the two parts is already operational. Now comes the insertion into FrameMaker of the 190 graphics from Word to OOo Draw for extraction/conversion to TIFFs and then linked into FrameMaker. Hopefully, Lulu will use the FrameMaker version, as FrameMaker's typesetting algorithms are better than either Word's or OOo's.

Gary

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Gary Schnabl
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