Hi Dan,

We use KNI device exactly the same way you described – with IP addresses,
routing, etc.
And we also faced the same problem of having the actual link status in
Linux kernel.

There is a special callback for link state management in net_device_ops for
soft-devices like KNI called ndo_change_carrier.
Current KNI driver implements it already, you just need to write to
/sys/class/net/<iface>/carrier
to change link status.

Right now we implement it on application side, but I think it'll be good to
have this in rte_kni API.

Here is our implementation:

static int
linux_set_carrier(const char *name, int status)
{
char path[64];
const char *carrier = status ? "1" : "0";
int fd, ret;

sprintf(path, "/sys/devices/virtual/net/%s/carrier", name);
fd = open(path, O_WRONLY);
if (fd == -1) {
return -errno;
}

ret = write(fd, carrier, 2);
if (ret == -1) {
close(fd);
return -errno;
}

close(fd);

return 0;
}

Best regards,
Igor

On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 2:10 AM, Stephen Hemminger <
step...@networkplumber.org> wrote:

> On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 19:41:23 -0300
> Dan Gora <d...@adax.com> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 7:12 PM, Dan Gora <d...@adax.com> wrote:
> > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 7:00 PM, Stephen Hemminger
> > > <step...@networkplumber.org> wrote:
> > >>> >> Add a new API function to KNI, rte_kni_update_link() to allow DPDK
> > >>> >> applications to update the link state for the KNI network
> interfaces
> > >>> >> in the linux kernel.
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> Note that the default carrier state is set to off when the
> interface
> > >>> >> is opened.
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> Signed-off-by: Dan Gora <d...@adax.com>
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Do you really need a special ioctl for this?
> > >>> > There is already ability to set link state via sysfs or netlink.
> > >>>
> > >>> I think yes.. AFAIK sysfs does not constitute a stable API;
> > >>
> > >> It is a stable API on Linux.
> > >
> >
> > Actually this does not seem to be completely true...
> >
> > From Documentation/admin-guide/sysfs-rules.rst:
> >
> > Rules on how to access information in sysfs
> > ===========================================
> >
> > The kernel-exported sysfs exports internal kernel implementation details
> > and depends on internal kernel structures and layout. It is agreed upon
> > by the kernel developers that the Linux kernel does not provide a stable
> > internal API. Therefore, there are aspects of the sysfs interface that
> > may not be stable across kernel releases.
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > - devices are only "devices"
> >     There is no such thing like class-, bus-, physical devices,
> >     interfaces, and such that you can rely on in userspace. Everything is
> >     just simply a "device". Class-, bus-, physical, ... types are just
> >     kernel implementation details which should not be expected by
> >     applications that look for devices in sysfs.
> >
> >     The properties of a device are:
> >
> >     - devpath (``/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.1/usb2/2-2/2-2:1.0``)
> > <snip>
> >
> >     - kernel name (``sda``, ``tty``, ``0000:00:1f.2``, ...)
> > <snip>
> >
> >     - subsystem (``block``, ``tty``, ``pci``, ...)
> > <snip>
> >
> >     - driver (``tg3``, ``ata_piix``, ``uhci_hcd``)
> > <snip>
> >
> >     - attributes
> > <snip>
> >
> >     Everything else is just a kernel driver-core implementation detail
> >     that should not be assumed to be stable across kernel releases.
>
> Network device sysfs is stable. No one ever got around to putting it in
> documentation
> I wouldn't worry, once anything in /sys/class/net is added it is not going
> to change without major breakage in many many tools.
>

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