On Wed, Jun 03, 2020 at 04:14:13PM +0000, Slava Ovsiienko wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dev <dev-boun...@dpdk.org> On Behalf Of Nithin Dabilpuram
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 15:52
> > To: Olivier Matz <olivier.m...@6wind.com>
> > Cc: Ananyev, Konstantin <konstantin.anan...@intel.com>; Jerin Jacob
> > <jerinjac...@gmail.com>; Dumitrescu, Cristian
> > <cristian.dumitre...@intel.com>; Nithin Dabilpuram
> > <nithind1...@gmail.com>; Thomas Monjalon <tho...@monjalon.net>;
> > Yigit, Ferruh <ferruh.yi...@intel.com>; Andrew Rybchenko
> > <arybche...@solarflare.com>; Ori Kam <or...@mellanox.com>; Burakov,
> > Anatoly <anatoly.bura...@intel.com>; Mcnamara, John
> > <john.mcnam...@intel.com>; Kovacevic, Marko
> > <marko.kovace...@intel.com>; dpdk-dev <dev@dpdk.org>; Jerin Jacob
> > <jer...@marvell.com>; Krzysztof Kanas <kka...@marvell.com>;
> > techbo...@dpdk.org
> > Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [EXT] Re: [PATCH 1/3] mbuf: add Tx offloads for
> > packet marking
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 03, 2020 at 01:38:22PM +0200, Olivier Matz wrote:
> > > Hi Nithin,
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 03, 2020 at 04:14:14PM +0530, Nithin Dabilpuram wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Jun 03, 2020 at 10:28:44AM +0200, Olivier Matz wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jun 02, 2020 at 07:55:37PM +0530, Nithin Dabilpuram wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, Jun 02, 2020 at 10:53:08AM +0000, Ananyev, Konstantin
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi Jerin,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I also share Olivier's concern about consuming 3 bits in
> > ol_flags for that feature.
> > > > > > > > > > > Can it probably be squeezed somehow?
> > > > > > > > > > > Let say we reserve one flag that this information is
> > > > > > > > > > > present or not, and re-use one of rx-only fields for store
> > additional information (packet_type, or so).
> > > > > > > > > > > Or might be some other approach.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > We are fine with this approach where we define one bit
> > > > > > > > > > in Tx offloads for pkt marking and and 3 bits reused from Rx
> > offload flags area.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > For example:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > @@ -186,10 +186,16 @@ extern "C" {
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > /* add new RX flags here, don't forget to update
> > > > > > > > > > PKT_FIRST_FREE */
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > +/* Reused Rx offload bits for Tx offloads */
> > > > > > > > > > +#define PKT_X_TX_MARK_VLAN_DEI (1ULL << 0)
> > > > > > > > > > +#define PKT_X_TX_MARK_IP_DSCP (1ULL << 1)
> > > > > > > > > > +#define PKT_X_TX_MARK_IP_ECN (1ULL << 2)
> > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > #define PKT_FIRST_FREE (1ULL << 23) -#define
> > > > > > > > > > PKT_LAST_FREE (1ULL << 40)
> > > > > > > > > > +#define PKT_LAST_FREE (1ULL << 39)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > /* add new TX flags here, don't forget to update
> > > > > > > > > > PKT_LAST_FREE */
> > > > > > > > > > +#define PKT_TX_MARK_EN (1ULL << 40)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Is this fine ?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Any thoughts on this approach which uses only 1 bit in Tx
> > > > > > > > > flags out of 18 and reuse unused Rx flag bits ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My thought was not about re-defining the flags (I think it is
> > > > > > > better to keep them intact), but adding a union for one of rx-only
> > fields (packet_type/rss/timestamp).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ok. Adding a union field at packet_type field is also fine like
> > > > > > below.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > @@ -187,9 +187,10 @@ extern "C" {
> > > > > > /* add new RX flags here, don't forget to update PKT_FIRST_FREE
> > > > > > */
> > > > > >
> > > > > > #define PKT_FIRST_FREE (1ULL << 23) -#define PKT_LAST_FREE
> > > > > > (1ULL << 40)
> > > > > > +#define PKT_LAST_FREE (1ULL << 39)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > /* add new TX flags here, don't forget to update PKT_LAST_FREE
> > > > > > */
> > > > > > +#define PKT_TX_MARK_EN (1ULL << 40)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > /**
> > > > > > * Outer UDP checksum offload flag. This flag is used for
> > > > > > enabling @@ -461,6 +462,14 @@ enum { #endif };
> > > > > >
> > > > > > +/* Tx packet marking flags in rte_mbuf::tx_mark.
> > > > > > + * Valid only when PKT_TX_MARK_EN is set in
> > > > > > + * rte_mbuf::ol_flags.
> > > > > > + */
> > > > > > +#define TX_MARK_VLAN_DEI (1ULL << 0)
> > > > > > +#define TX_MARK_IP_DSCP (1ULL << 1)
> > > > > > +#define TX_MARK_IP_ECN (1ULL << 2)
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > /**
> > > > > > * The generic rte_mbuf, containing a packet mbuf.
> > > > > > */
> > > > > > @@ -543,6 +552,10 @@ struct rte_mbuf {
> > > > > > };
> > > > > > uint32_t inner_l4_type:4; /**< Inner L4 type. */
> > > > > > };
> > > > > > + struct {
> > > > > > + uint32_t reserved:29;
> > > > > > + uint32_t tx_mark:3;
> > > > > > + };
> > > > > > };
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please correct me if this is not what you mean.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not a big fan of reusing Rx fields or flags for Tx.
> > > > > It's not obvious for an application than adding a tx_mark will
> > > > > overwrite the packet_type. I understand that the risk is limited
> > > > > because packet_type is Rx and the marks are Tx, but there is still
> > > > > one.
> > > >
> > > > I'm also not a big fan but just wanted to take this approach so
> > > > that, it can both conserve space and also help fast path.
> > > > Reusing Rx area is however not a new thing as is already followed
> > > > for
> > > > mbuf->txadapter field.
> > >
> > > Yes, and in my opinion this is something we should avoid when
> > > possible, because it makes some features exclusive (ex: the big union
> > > with sched/rss/adapter/usr/...).
> > >
> > > > Apart from documentation issue, Is there any other issue or future
> > > > ramification with using Rx field's for Tx ?
> > >
> > > No, I don't see any other issue except the ones we already mentioned (doc,
> > code clarity, ).
> > >
> > > > If it is only about documentation, then we can add more documentation
> > to make things clear.
> > > > >
> > > > > To summarize the different proposed approaches (please correct me if
> > I'm wrong):
> > > > >
> > > > > a- add 3 Tx mbuf flags
> > > > > (-) consumes limited resource
> > > > >
> > > > > b- add 3 dynamic flags
> > > > > (-) slower
> > > >
> > > > - Tx burst Vector implementation can't be done for this tx offload as
> > > > offset keeps changing.
> > >
> > > A vector implementation can be done. But yes, it would be slower than
> > > with a static flag.
> >
> > Very slow atleast in our HW as, we try to translate ol_flags to HW
> > descriptor
> > flags in addition to extra operations to be done like offset calculations
> > etc.
>
> The dynamic flag offset is not subject to be changed after registration.
> So, flag offset can be converted once into appropriate mask and stored
> locally by PMD for further using in vector instructions.
> The only difference - loaded variable mask instead of constant one, should
> not affect performance too much.
> With the cmpeq/shifts the and results can be converted to any desired
> predefined mask (like static one).
>
> >
> > So if we have fixed offsets, then it is easy to have static constant
>
> BTW, how this constant is loaded?
> I suppose on x86 it would be rather mm_load?_si128(*constant array) - no
> difference
> between dynamic and static masks at all. BTW, there is the hint - to make
> local copy of the
> mask/offset in order to avoid cache-line concurrency in global variable
> storage.
>
> > 128/256 bit words with offsets and use things like shuffle/table lookup to
> > reorganize multiple mbuf flags to descriptor fields in a single instruction.
>
> Offsets in the HW descriptor remain the fixed ones, so shuffle would still
> work OK.
> Do you already have some vectorized implementation? It would be curious to
> have a look at.
Agree that the constants need to be loaded from memory, but there is also a
logic created onto transforming that data to descriptor which is not always
straight forward.
For example, see otx2_tx.c,
// mbuf has tx offload field L2_LEN of 7 bits, L3_LEN of 9 bits which are not
on byte boundary.
// Below are the transformations done to get them to byte boundary.
/* Get tx_offload for ol2, ol3, l2, l3 lengths from mbuf*/
/*
* Operation result:
* E(8):OL2_LEN(7):OL3_LEN(9):E(24):L3_LEN(9):L2_LEN(7)
* E(8):OL2_LEN(7):OL3_LEN(9):E(24):L3_LEN(9):L2_LEN(7)
*/
asm volatile ("LD1 {%[a].D}[0],[%[in]]\n\t" :
[a]"+w"(senddesc01_w1) :
[in]"r"(mbuf0 + 2) : "memory");
/*
* Operation Result:
* E(47):L3_LEN(9):L2_LEN(7+z)
* E(47):L3_LEN(9):L2_LEN(7+z)
*/
senddesc01_w1 = vshlq_n_u64(senddesc01_w1, 1);
senddesc23_w1 = vshlq_n_u64(senddesc23_w1, 1);
/*
* Result:
* E(48):L3_LEN(8):L2_LEN(z+7)
* E(48):L3_LEN(8):L2_LEN(z+7)
*/
const int8x16_t tshft3 = {
-1, 0, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8,
-1, 0, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8,
};
senddesc01_w1 = vshlq_u8(senddesc01_w1, tshft3);
senddesc23_w1 = vshlq_u8(senddesc23_w1, tshft3);
We cannot get all the above logic done runtime for every position of
mbuf->l2_len if
the field position keeps changing for every application run.
>
> I strongly share the concern about defining the static mbuf flags,
> we should consider all ways to avoid doing this.
>
> WBR, Slava
> >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > c- add 1 Tx flag and union with Rx field
> > > > > (-) exclusive with Rx field
> > > > > (-) still consumes one flag
> > > > >
> > > > > My preference is still b-, for these reasons:
> > > > >
> > > > > - There are many different DPDK use cases, and resources in mbuf is
> > tight.
> > > > > Recent contributions (rte_flow and ice driver) already made use of
> > dynamic
> > > > > fields/flags.
> > > > - Since RTE_FLOW metadata is 32-bit field, it is a clear candidate
> > > > for dynamic flags.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure to get why it is a better candidate than packet marking.
> > > You mean because it requires more room in mbuf?
> >
> > Yes, I feel space consumption is one way to decide whether it should be a
> > dynfield or static field.
> >
> > IMO, other parameter to judge could be whether the field definition/usage
> > itself is well know standard and is a part of RTE spec or its definition is
> > vendor specific.
> >
> > >
> > > > - ICE PMD's dynamic field is however a vendor specific field and
> > > > only for ICE PMD users.
> > >
> > > Yes, but ICE PMD users may be as important as packet marking users.
> >
> > Agree, I only meant that the flag ICE PMD registered cannot be used for
> > other PMD's so by using dynamic field, we are avoiding wastage of a static
> > field that is needed only by one specific PMD irrespective of whether that
> > PMD is probed or not.
> >
> > >
> > > > In this case, it is just 1 bit out of 18 free bits available in
> > > > ol_flags.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > - When I implemented the dynamic fields/flags feature, I did a test
> > which
> > > > > showed that the cost of having a dynamic offset was few cycles (on
> > my test
> > > > > platform, it was~3 cycles for reading a field and ~2 cycles for
> > > > > writing a
> > > > > field).
> > > >
> > > > I think this cost is of the case where the address where the
> > > > dyn_offset is stored is already in cache as it needs to be read first.
> > >
> > > This fetch of the value (in case it is not in cache) can be done once
> > > per bulk, so I'm not sure the impact would be high.
> >
> > Agreed, for bulk case offset loading should have less impact.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Olivier
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Olivier
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > + Techboard
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > There is a related thread going on
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> > > > > > > > If there is no consensus on email, then I would like to add
> > > > > > > > this item to the next TB meeting.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ok, I'll add that to tomorrow meeting agenda.
> > > > > > > Konstantin
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
