On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 9:19 PM Ananyev, Konstantin
<[email protected]> wrote:
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jerin Jacob <[email protected]>
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> > To: Ananyev, Konstantin <[email protected]>
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> > Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 0/9] Add PMD power mgmt
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 9:04 PM Ananyev, Konstantin
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > >
> > >
> > > > > > 28/10/2020 14:49, Jerin Jacob:
> > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 7:05 PM Liang, Ma <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Thomas,
> > > > > > > >   I think I addressed all of the questions in relation to V9. I 
> > > > > > > > don't think I can solve the issue of a generic API on my own. 
> > > > > > > > From the
> > > > > > Community Call last week Jerin also said that a generic was 
> > > > > > investigated but that a single solution wasn't feasible.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think, From the architecture point of view, the specific
> > > > > > > functionally of UMONITOR may not be abstracted.
> > > > > > > But from the ethdev callback point of view, Can it be abstracted 
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > such a way that packet notification available through
> > > > > > > checking interrupt status register or ring descriptor location, 
> > > > > > > etc by
> > > > > > > the driver. Use that callback as a notification mechanism rather
> > > > > > > than defining a memory-based scheme that UMONITOR expects? or 
> > > > > > > similar
> > > > > > > thoughts on abstraction.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think there is probably some sort of misunderstanding.
> > > > > This API is not about providing acync notification when next packet 
> > > > > arrives.
> > > > > This is about to putting core to sleep till some event (or timeout) 
> > > > > happens.
> > > > > From my perspective the closest analogy: cond_timedwait().
> > > > > So we need PMD to tell us what will be the address of the condition 
> > > > > variable
> > > > > we should sleep on.
> > > > >
> > > > > > I agree with Jerin.
> > > > > > The ethdev API is the blocking problem.
> > > > > > First problem: it is not well explained in doxygen.
> > > > > > Second problem: it is probably not generic enough (if we understand 
> > > > > > it well)
> > > > >
> > > > > It is an address to sleep(/wakeup) on, plus expected value.
> > > > > Honestly, I can't think-up of anything even more generic then that.
> > > > > If you guys have something particular in mind - please share.
> > > >
> > > > Current PMD callback:
> > > > typedef int (*eth_get_wake_addr_t)(void *rxq, volatile void
> > > > **tail_desc_addr, + uint64_t *expected, uint64_t *mask, uint8_t
> > > > *data_sz);
> > > >
> > > > Can we make it as
> > > > typedef void (*core_sleep_t)(void *rxq)
> > > >
> > > > if we do such abstraction and "move the polling on memory by HW/CPU"
> > > > to the driver using a helper function then
> > > > I can think of abstracting in some way in all PMDs.
> > >
> > > Ok I see, thanks for explanation.
> > > From my perspective main disadvantage of such approach -
> > > it can't be extended easily.
> > > If/when will have an ability for core to sleep/wake-up on multiple events
> > > (multiple addresses) will have to either rework that API again.
> >
> > I think, we can enumerate the policies and pass the associated
> > structures as input to the driver.
>
> What I am trying to say: with that API we will not be able to wait
> for events from multiple devices (HW queues).
> I.E. something like that:
>
> get_wake_addr(port=X, ..., &addr[0], ...);
> get_wake_addr(port=Y,..., &addr[1],...);
> wait_on_multi(addr, 2);
>
> wouldn't be possible.

I see. But the current implementation dictates the only queue bound to
a core. Right?


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> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Note: core_sleep_t can take some more arguments such as enumerated
> > > > policy if something more needs to be pushed to the driver.
> > > >
> > > > Thoughts?
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This API is experimental and other vendor support can be added 
> > > > > > > > as needed. If there are any other open issue let me know?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Being experimental is not an excuse to throw something
> > > > > > which is not satisfying.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >

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