Would be interesting to list pros/cons of groups.io.
First problems I can see:
- it means re-registering for everyone
- groups.io is not under our control
- not sure we can have some key features of inbox.dpdk.org:
* thread view
* download
Ali installed https://inbox.dpdk.org to complement
mailman and patchwork, this is very convenient in many use cases.
Please share the benefits of groups.io.
23/09/2021 19:26, St Leger, Jim:
> Ali:
>
> I have no expertise here. But have we explored moving from Mailman to
> groups.io?
>
> I can't speak to the pros/cons of the two. I can only say that for many other
> projects I'm involved in they use groups.io. (I can log in there and see all
> of the projects/groups that I subscribe to.)
>
> Also, have you had this conversation with the Tech Board? It looks like the
> dev@dpdk.org mailing list will be last. Is that also correct?
>
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: announce <announce-boun...@dpdk.org> On Behalf Of Ali Alnubani
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 2:15 AM
> To: annou...@dpdk.org; us...@dpdk.org; w...@dpdk.org
> Subject: [dpdk-announce] DMARC mitigation in dpdk.org's mailing list
>
> Hi all,
>
> Due to the changes that Mailman (our mailing list software) does to posts
> before distributing them, DKIM and DMARC verification will fail for emails
> originating from the domains that support them. This causes some posts to go
> into spam/quarantine and sometimes completely discarded depending on the
> domain's policy.
>
> DKIM (DomainKeys Identified Mail) is a form of email authentication that uses
> public key cryptography to digitally sign outgoing emails. Senders add this
> signature to the headers of the email message for the receiving mail servers
> to validate against. The sender specifies which of the original headers is
> covered by this signature.
> DMARC (Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting, and Conformance)
> basically allows domains to publish policies that tell receiving mail servers
> how to handle DKIM verification failures. Strict policies can be set to
> either reject (message not delivered to user's mailbox), or quarantine
> (spam/junk) the messages failing them.
>
> I would like to propose making some mailing list configuration changes to
> mitigate and reduce signature breakage:
> - Disable prepending subject prefixes (e.g., [dpdk-dev]).
> Making this change will probably break the rules and filters list members
> have for their mailboxes if they filter by the subject prefix.
> Members can filter by Mailman's List-Id header instead, or by the To/Cc
> headers.
> - Disable rewriting the "Sender" header.
> Mailman replaces this header by default with the list's bounce address to
> direct bounces from some broken MTAs to the right destination.
> - Disable conversion of text/html to plain text.
> Mailman currently strips MIME attachments and does text/html to plain text
> conversion.
>
> We experimented for a while with these changes in a test list we created
> (https://mails.dpdk.org/listinfo/test-dmarc), and we found that they helped
> in mitigating signature breakage.
> We tested with signed emails from the domains: nvidia.com, broadcom.com, and
> gmail.com. We verified that posts on the test list showed passing DKIM/DMARC
> results in their 'Authentication-Results' header.
>
> We plan on making these changes to us...@dpdk.org and w...@dpdk.org first,
> and then to the rest of the lists once we make sure there are no unexpected
> issues.
>
> Any feedback will be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Ali
>
