Hi Shally,

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> Prasad
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> Subject: RE: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] compressdev: implement API - mbuf alternative
> 
> HI Fiona
> 
> So I understand we're moving away from mbufs because of its size limitation 
> (64k) and cacheline overhead
> and their more suitability to n/w applications. Given that, I understand 
> benefit of having another structure
> to input data but then what is proposal for ipcomp like application where 
> mbuf usage may be a better
> option? Should we keep support for both (mbuf and this structure) so that 
> apps can use appropriate data
> structure depending on their requirement.
[Fiona] An application can use pass buffers from an mbuf or mbuf chain to 
compressdev by filling in the 
compressdev struct fields with the mbuf meta-data, using 
rte_pktmbuf_data_len(), 
rte_pktmbuf_mtod(), rte_pktmbuf_mtophys(), etc
For simplicity I'd prefer to offer only 1 rather than 2 data formats on the API.
We see storage applications rather than IPComp as the main use-case for 
compressdev, so would prefer
to optimise for that.
Do you think otherwise?

> 
> Further comments, on github.
> 
> Thanks
> Shally
> 
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Trahe, Fiona [mailto:[email protected]]
> >Sent: 12 March 2018 21:31
> >To: Ahmed Mansour <[email protected]>; Verma, Shally 
> ><[email protected]>;
> [email protected]
> >Cc: De Lara Guarch, Pablo <[email protected]>; Athreya, 
> >Narayana Prasad
> <[email protected]>;
> >Gupta, Ashish <[email protected]>; Sahu, Sunila 
> ><[email protected]>; Challa, Mahipal
> ><[email protected]>; Jain, Deepak K <[email protected]>; 
> >Hemant Agrawal
> <[email protected]>; Roy
> >Pledge <[email protected]>; Youri Querry <[email protected]>; 
> >[email protected]; Daly,
> Lee <[email protected]>;
> >Jozwiak, TomaszX <[email protected]>
> >Subject: RE: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] compressdev: implement API - mbuf alternative
> >
> >Hi Shally, Ahmed, and anyone else interested in compressdev,
> >
> >I mentioned last week that we've been exploring using something other than 
> >mbufs to pass src/dst
> buffers to compressdev PMDs.
> >
> >Reasons:
> > - mbuf data is limited to 64k-1 in each segment of a chained mbuf. Data for 
> > compression
> >    can be greater and it would add cycles to have to break up into smaller 
> > segments.
> > - data may originate in mbufs, but is more likely, particularly for storage 
> > use-cases,  to
> >    originate in other data structures.
> > - There's a 2 cache-line overhead for every segment in a chain, most of 
> > this data
> >    is network-related, not needed by compressdev
> >So moving to a custom structure would minimise memory overhead, remove 
> >restriction on 64k-1 size and
> give more flexibility if
> >compressdev ever needs any comp-specific meta-data.
> >
> >We've come up with a compressdev-specific structure using the struct iovec 
> >from sys/uio.h, which is
> commonly used by storage
> >applications. This would replace the src and dest mbufs in the  op.
> >I'll not include the code here - Pablo will push that to github shortly and 
> >we'd appreciate review
> comments there.
> >https://github.com/pablodelara/dpdk-draft-compressdev
> >Just posting on the mailing list to give a heads-up and ensure this reaches 
> >a wider audience than may see
> it on github.
> >
> >Note : We also considered having no data structures in the op, instead the 
> >application
> >would supply a callback which the PMD would use to retrieve meta-data (virt 
> >address, iova, length)
> >for each next segment as needed. While this is quite flexible and allow the 
> >application
> >to keep its data in its native structures, it's likely to cost more cycles.
> >So we're not proposing this at the moment, but hope to benchmark it later 
> >while the API is still
> experimental.
> >
> >General feedback on direction is welcome here on the mailing list.
> >For feedback on the details of implementation we would appreciate comments 
> >on github.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Fiona.

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