Can UDFs accumulate a fixed length binary value?


On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 11:23 AM Paul Rogers <par0...@yahoo.com.invalid>
wrote:

> Hi Ted,
>
> Thanks for the link; I suspected there was some trick for stddev. The
> point still stands that, if the algorithm requires multiple passes over the
> data (ML, say), can't be done in Drill.
>
> Each UDF must return exactly one value. It can return a map if you want
> multiple values (though someone would have to check that projection works
> to convert these to scalar top-level values). AFAIK, a UDF can produce a
> binary buffer as output (type VarBinary). But, an aggregate UDF cannot
> accumulate a VarChar or VarBinary because Drill cannot insert values into
> an existing variable-length vector.
>
> UDFs need your knack for finding a workaround to get your job done; they
> have pretty strong limitations on the surface.
>
> Thanks,
> - Paul
>
>
>
>     On Monday, August 12, 2019, 10:59:56 AM PDT, Ted Dunning <
> ted.dunn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Is it possible for a UDF to produce multiple scalar results? Can it
> produce
> a binary result?
>
> Also, as a nit, standard deviation doesn't require buffering all the data.
> It just requires that you have three accumulators, one for count, one for
> mean and one for mean squared deviation.  There is a slightly tricky
> algorithm called Welford's algorithm
> <
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algorithms_for_calculating_variance#Welford's_online_algorithm
> >
> which
> allows good numerical stability while computing this on-line.
>
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 9:01 AM Paul Rogers <par0...@yahoo.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Ted,
> >
> > Last I checked (when we wrote the book chapter on the subject), aggregate
> > state are limited to scalars and Drill-defined types. There is no support
> > to spill aggregate state, so that state will be lost if spilling is
> > required to handle large aggregate batches. The current solution works
> for
> > simple cases such as totals and averages.
> >
> > Aggregate UDFs share no state, so it is not possible for one function to
> > use state accumulated by another. If, for example, you want sum, average
> > and standard deviation, you'll have to accumulate the total three times,
> > average twice, and so on. Note that the std dev function will require
> > buffering all data in one's own array (without any spilling or other
> > support), to allow computing the (X-bar - X)^2 part of the calculation.
> >
> > A UDF can emit a byte array (have to check it this is true of aggregate
> > UDFs). A VarChar is simply a special kind of array, and UDFs can emit a
> > VarChar.
> >
> > All this is from memory and so is only approximately accurate. YMMV.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > - Paul
> >
> >
> >
> >    On Monday, August 12, 2019, 07:35:47 AM PDT, Ted Dunning <
> > ted.dunn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >  What is the current state of building aggregators that have complex
> state
> > via UDFs?
> >
> > Is it possible to define multi-level aggregators in a UDF?
> >
> > Can the output of a UDF be a byte array?
> >
> >
> > (these are three different questions)
> >
>

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