Full disclosure, Petri first noticed this here
<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FINERACT-855?focusedCommentId=17098277&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#comment-17098277>

Also see: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FINERACT-922

On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 12:18 PM Awasum Yannick <awa...@apache.org> wrote:

> Looks like the flaky Integration tests failures is as a result of schedule
> jobs taking too much time to complete so much that by the time an assertion
> is done, the job history has zero completed jobs and we get in some cases
> array out of bound exceptions due to 0 - 1 index. And in some cases
> assertion errors.
>
> I will soon be sending a pr based on this and comments made else where.
>
> PS: sorry, am on mobile
>
> On Sat, May 2, 2020, 18:00 Michael Vorburger <m...@vorburger.ch> wrote:
>
>> Saransh,
>>
>> yes, totally agree, of course fixing any failing test is the best, and
>> any contributions for that would be very helpful.
>>
>> The point we are making with
>> https://github.com/apache/fineract#pull-requests is obviously not ;)
>> that we don't welcome help with fixing flaky tests, but simply that we
>> cannot block people's PRs on anything else due to clearly unstable ITs. A
>> project cannot stop parallel work and just grind to a complete halt because
>> of some failing tests - as important as fixing failing tests ASAP is, yes,
>> of course.
>>
>> I do meanwhile firmly believe that ignoring tests, IFF they are proven to
>> be unrelated to a change proposed in a PR (as the README states), and then
>> having separate investigations by interested parties to re-un-ignore any
>> fixed tests, is the right strategy. Hope you agree?
>>
>> Best,
>> M.
>> _______________________
>> Michael Vorburger
>> http://www.vorburger.ch
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 6:17 PM Saransh Sharma <sara...@muellners.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I investigated these tests, they are failing because of the
>>> interdependent nature of the application, Ignoring them eventually is not a
>>> better idea. Since the nature of the "flaky" test is unknown , are we sure
>>> that we might not encounter the same problem? in the next PR  or in the
>>> future PR's
>>>
>>> Points :
>>>
>>> 1. I made some changes not related to anything to other packages
>>>
>>> Failed 3 of the tests . :) Pretty crazy , I think the status from the
>>> API is also returning 403 (is this normal don't think so.)
>>>
>>> https://api.travis-ci.org/v3/job/682216325/log.txt (Is this normal
>>> behaviour , plus local its quite different)
>>>
>>> Thus leading to this , "The following objects may have been
>>> concurrently modified in another transaction" It is clear that at the same
>>> time the transactions are happening.
>>> I would suggest that we group tests based on the packages and then
>>> perform functional tests based on the order of the dependency.
>>>
>>> Let me know, if at all we should try to resolve those test issues rather
>>> than putting Ignore.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 10:00 AM James Dailey <jamespdai...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1
>>>>
>>>> "Please do NOT just @Ignore any existing tests mixed in as part of
>>>> your larger PR."
>>>>
>>>> This seems like a key point to bring up to a higher level in the code
>>>> review.  i.e. should there be a search for @Ignore when doing a code
>>>> review?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 2:30 AM Michael Vorburger <m...@vorburger.ch>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> I propose https://github.com/apache/fineract/pull/782 as our New
>>>>> Policy about how to deal with unstable tests (text proposed to be added to
>>>>> the README in that PR is copy/pasted below for your reading convenience).
>>>>>
>>>>> Tx,
>>>>> M.
>>>>>
>>>>> If your PR is failing to pass our CI build due to a test failure which
>>>>> you suspect is a "flaky" test, and not due to a change in your PR, then
>>>>> please do not simply wait for an active maintainer to come and help you,
>>>>> but instead be a proactive contributor to the project, like this: Search
>>>>> for the name of the failed test on https://issues.apache.org/jira/,
>>>>> e.g. for AccountingScenarioIntegrationTest you would find FINERACT-899
>>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FINERACT-899>. If you find
>>>>> previous comments "proving" that the same test has arbitrarily failed in 
>>>>> at
>>>>> least 3 past PRs, then please do yourself raise a small separate new PR
>>>>> proposing to add an @Ignore to the respective unstable test (e.g. #774
>>>>> <https://github.com/apache/fineract/pull/774>) with the commit
>>>>> message mentioning said JIRA (as always). Please do NOT just @Ignore
>>>>> any existing tests mixed in as part of your larger PR. If there is no
>>>>> existing JIRA for the test, then first please evaluate whether the failure
>>>>> couldn't be a (perhaps strange) impact of the change you are proposing
>>>>> after all. If it's not, then please raise a new JIRA to document the
>>>>> suspected Flaky Test, and link it to FINERACT-850
>>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FINERACT-850>. This will allow
>>>>> the next person coming along hitting the same test failure to easily find
>>>>> it, and eventually propose to ignore the unstable test. Then (only) Close
>>>>> and Reopen your PR, which will cause a new build, to see if it passes.
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________
>>>>> Michael Vorburger
>>>>> http://www.vorburger.ch
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Saransh Sharma
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