:+1: for the "Recommended Implementation Partners"... informally I think
some people know these companies already, but it's a great idea to make
this more visible.

On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 5:34 PM Michael Vorburger <m...@vorburger.ch> wrote:

> Hello Airsay & everyone,
>
> Airsay raised the following interesting question on the "Fineract
> Customization" email thread, which to me seems worth discussing on a fresh
> new email thread here:
>
> "Are there any avenues to donate to the project to have specific
> functionality built into Fineract?"
>
> So, you CAN donate to the ASF at https://donate.apache.org, but this
> ("just") contributes to the capex & opex costs of e.g.the Apache Software
> Foundation (ASF) running issues.apache.org etc. for all projects.
>
> You CANNOT donate directly to our Apache Fineract project, and that's
> perhaps a Good Thing and a Feature, not a Bug? ;-) It would be complicated
> to determine where such money would go (IMHO).
>
> You COULD certainly just donate to specific individuals; e.g. I personally
> set up https://github.com/sponsors/vorburger once.. :-)
>
> BUT I suspect that you may really be asking something else... what you
> possibly are really getting at here is "I have problem XYZ or feature
> request ABC, and am looking for someone to implement that for me, and am
> willing to pay any interested party real money to do so" - am I right in
> assuming that may at least partially be the real question that you were
> asking?
>
> As far as I know, there absolutely are parties possibly interested in
> working with folks such as you like this  (for full disclosure: I
> personally am NOT one of them). But perhaps it's not so obvious to you how
> to connect with such parties? I believe we all together as the project
> community could perhaps do better at enabling this. A while ago we
> discussed some ideas about creating some sort of magical sophisticated
> "matchmaking marketplace" site for such requests. We haven't really
> progressed on this, but... perhaps this really isn't that complicated? I
> have a simple suggestion for you, and anyone else interested:
>
> If you need something done which you don't have the know how for
> implementing yourself, and don't want to wait for a volunteer to possibly
> look into some day, then first create a JIRA issue describing whatever it
> is - as always. Then send a short email to this developer mailing list
> sounding something like this: Subject: "$€¥£₱ for FINERACT-123", Body:
> "Hello, we need FINERACT-123, and are willing to pay a mutually agreed upon
> fee we'll privately settle on first to anyone interested who is able to
> fully implement that to our specification when a Pull Request for the
> requested functionality was made available and merged into the develop
> branch of Fineract. Please direct reply offlist to me with any questions
> and your proposed quotes for implementing issue FINERACT-123."
>
> BTW if I were you, I would fairly strongly feel that it is in both YOUR
> and this community's interest to have any such work done "upstream first",
> on https://github.com/apache/fineract. To you, it makes it easier to
> upgrade to new releases. To us, it helps move a common unified code base
> with new features and bug fixes forward. If it's functionality that someone
> implements for you on a "private fork" that they are offering you, then
> discussing that, IMHO, should not happen on this public mailing list at
> all. We do understand that sometimes customization requests require changes
> to existing code, but believe that it's possible to combine "upstream
> first" and "local customizations" through modularity; there is currently
> new energy on exploring this (NB FINERACT-1127 & FINERACT-1171) - more
> about that separately later.
>
> Maybe you'll get 0 replies to such an email. But IMHO it's worth giving
> that a try and see what you get... I'm (very) curious myself! It's IMHO
> totally OK for follow-up discussions to be held privately. We the community
> would simply see JIRAs being self assigned, pull requests being raised,
> reviewed and merged. Money may have flown to Make It So - there's nothing
> wrong with that (at least to me personally), and that doesn't have to be
> public on list.
>
> If something like the model outlined here takes on and proves to work,
> then the Apache Fineract community could eventually even start to maintain
> some sort of list, in a simple MD doc on Git, about "Recommended
> Implementation Partners" - based on publicly verifiable contribution track
> records (i.e. merged PRs) by parties offering such services in reply to
> "$€¥£₱ for FINERACT-123" email threads.
>
> Further thoughts on this topic very much welcome on this public thread!
>
> M.
>

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