Hi Zayyad,

Sorry to jump in here, but this is not a bug or problem, or indeed a
definition mismatch. The definition used by CGAP (and every MFI and funder
we've worked with so far):

Portfolio at risk. The value of all loans outstanding that have one or more
installments of principal past due more than a certain number of days. *This
item includes the entire unpaid principal balance, including both past-due
and future install- ments, but not accrued interest*. It also does not
include loans that have been restructured or rescheduled.
Source: B3 in this document:
https://www.cgap.org/sites/default/files/CGAP-Consensus-Guidelines-Definitions-of-Selected-Financial-Terms-Ratios-and-Adjustments-for-Microfinance-Sep-2003.pdf

This is the most widely accepted definition of PAR with just principal
overdue as percentage of principal outstanding, as the MFI doesn't "lose"
any income it has not actually earned yet. So it is also in line with what
you've stated above:"how much does the MFI stand to lose if all delinquent
clients completely default".

Thanks,
Sandfer



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On 10 March 2017 at 13:45, Zayyyad A. Said <zay...@intrasofttechnologies.com
> wrote:

> I need Total Outstanding Balance for Loans in Arrears.
>
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sampath Kumar G [mailto:samp...@confluxtechnologies.com]
> Sent: 10 March 2017 01:44 PM
> To: dev@fineract.incubator.apache.org
> Cc: Mifos software development <mifos-develo...@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Subject: Re: Portfolio at Risk
>
> Hi Zayyad,
>
> For loan balance arrears, do you need total arrears or only the principal
> arrears amount?
>
> Thanks and regards,
> Sampath
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> On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Zayyyad A. Said <
> zay...@intrasofttechnologies.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Devs,
> >
> >
> >
> > I have noted that the reports showing Portfolio at Risk % are not
> > really reporting the right PAR but Arrears Rate.
> >
> >
> >
> > There is a difference between the two:
> >
> >
> >
> > PAR is how much does the MFI stand to lose if all delinquent clients
> > completely default and thus its calculated by taking sum of all unpaid
> > balance for loan with past due repayments divided by total outstanding
> > balance.
> >
> >
> >
> > Arrears rate determine what percentage of the portfolio is overdue and
> > this is simple principal overdue divided by principal outstanding
> > (what the reports are currently reporting as PAR now).
> >
> >
> >
> > I would like to add “Loan Balance in Arrears” in the below code, could
> > someone please guide me on how I can do that?
> >
> >
> >
> > *select* *concat*(*repeat*("..",
> >
> > ((*LENGTH*(mo.`hierarchy`) - *LENGTH*(*REPLACE*(mo.`hierarchy`, '.',
> > ''))
> > - 1))), mo.`name`) *as* "Office/Branch", *x*.currency *as* Currency,
> >
> > *x*.client_count *as* "No. of Clients", *x*.active_loan_count *as* "No.
> > Active Loans", *x*. loans_in_arrears_count *as* "No. of Loans in
> > Arrears",
> >
> > *x*.principal *as* "Total Loans Disbursed", *x*.principal_repaid *as*
> > "Principal Repaid", *x*.principal_outstanding *as* "Principal
> Outstanding", *x*.
> > principal_overdue *as* "Principal Overdue",
> >
> > *x*.interest *as* "Total Interest", *x*.interest_repaid *as* "Interest
> > Repaid", *x*.interest_outstanding *as* "Interest Outstanding", *x*.
> > interest_overdue *as* "Interest Overdue",
> >
> > *x*.fees *as* "Total Fees", *x*.fees_repaid *as* "Fees Repaid", *x*.
> > fees_outstanding *as* "Fees Outstanding", *x*.fees_overdue *as* "Fees
> > Overdue",
> >
> > *x*.penalties *as* "Total Penalties", *x*.penalties_repaid *as*
> > "Penalties Repaid", *x*.penalties_outstanding *as* "Penalties
> Outstanding", *x*.
> > penalties_overdue *as* "Penalties Overdue",
> >
> >
> >
> > (*case*
> >
> > *when* ${parType} = 1 *then*
> >
> > *cast*(*round*((*x*.principal_overdue * 100) /
> > *x*.principal_outstanding,
> > 2) *as* *char*)
> >
> > *when* ${parType} = 2 *then*
> >
> > *cast*(*round*(((*x*.principal_overdue + *x*.interest_overdue) * 100)
> > / ( *x*.principal_outstanding + *x*.interest_outstanding), 2) *as*
> > *char*)
> >
> > *when* ${parType} = 3 *then*
> >
> > *cast*(*round*(((*x*.principal_overdue + *x*.interest_overdue + *x*.
> > fees_overdue) * 100) / (*x*.principal_outstanding + *x*.
> > interest_outstanding + *x*.fees_outstanding), 2) *as* *char*)
> >
> > *when* ${parType} = 4 *then*
> >
> > *cast*(*round*(((*x*.principal_overdue + *x*.interest_overdue + *x*.
> > fees_overdue + *x*.penalties_overdue) * 100) /
> > (*x*.principal_outstanding
> > + *x*.interest_outstanding + *x*.fees_outstanding +
> > + *x*.penalties_overdue
> > ), 2) *as* *char*)
> >
> > *else* "invalid PAR Type"
> >
> > *end*) *as* "Portfolio at Risk %"
> >
> > *from* m_office mo
> >
> > *join*
> >
> > (*select* ounder.id *as* branch,
> >
> > *ifnull*(cur.display_symbol, l.currency_code) *as* currency,
> >
> > *count*(*distinct*(c.id)) *as* client_count,
> >
> > *count*(*distinct*(l.id)) *as*  active_loan_count,
> >
> > *count*(*distinct*(*if*(laa.loan_id *is* *not* *null*,  l.id, *null*)
> > ))
> > *as* loans_in_arrears_count,
> >
> >
> >
> > *sum*(l.principal_disbursed_derived) *as* principal,
> >
> > *sum*(l.principal_repaid_derived) *as* principal_repaid,
> >
> > *sum*(l.principal_outstanding_derived) *as* principal_outstanding,
> >
> > *sum*(laa.principal_overdue_derived) *as* principal_overdue,
> >
> >
> >
> > *sum*(l.interest_charged_derived) *as* interest,
> >
> > *sum*(l.interest_repaid_derived) *as* interest_repaid,
> >
> > *sum*(l.interest_outstanding_derived) *as* interest_outstanding,
> >
> > *sum*(laa.interest_overdue_derived) *as* interest_overdue,
> >
> >
> >
> > *sum*(l.fee_charges_charged_derived) *as* fees,
> >
> > *sum*(l.fee_charges_repaid_derived) *as* fees_repaid,
> >
> > *sum*(l.fee_charges_outstanding_derived)  *as* fees_outstanding,
> >
> > *sum*(laa.fee_charges_overdue_derived) *as* fees_overdue,
> >
> >
> >
> > *sum*(l.penalty_charges_charged_derived) *as* penalties,
> >
> > *sum*(l.penalty_charges_repaid_derived) *as* penalties_repaid,
> >
> > *sum*(l.penalty_charges_outstanding_derived) *as*
> > penalties_outstanding,
> >
> > *sum*(laa.penalty_charges_overdue_derived) *as* penalties_overdue
> >
> >
> >
> > *from* m_office o
> >
> > *join* m_office ounder *on* ounder.hierarchy *like*
> > *concat*(o.hierarchy,
> > '%')
> >
> > *and* ounder.hierarchy *like* *concat*('${currentUserHierarchy}', '%')
> >
> > *join* m_client c *on* c.office_id = ounder.id
> >
> > *join* m_loan l *on* l.client_id = c.id
> >
> > *left* *join* m_loan_arrears_aging laa *on* laa.loan_id = l.id
> >
> > *left* *join* m_currency cur *on* cur.code = l.currency_code
> >
> >
> >
> > *where* o.id = ${officeId}
> >
> > *and* (l.currency_code = "${currencyId}" *or* "-1" = "${currencyId}")
> >
> > *and* (l.product_id = "${loanProductId}" *or* "-1" =
> > "${loanProductId}")
> >
> > *and* (*ifnull*(l.loan_officer_id, -10) = "${loanOfficerId}" *or* "-1"
> > =
> > "${loanOfficerId}")
> >
> > *and* (*ifnull*(l.fund_id, -10) = ${fundId} *or* -1 = ${fundId})
> >
> > *and* (*ifnull*(l.loanpurpose_cv_id, -10) = ${loanPurposeId} *or* -1 =
> > ${
> > loanPurposeId})
> >
> > *and* l.loan_status_id = 300
> >
> > *group* *by* ounder.id, l.currency_code) *x* *on* *x*.branch = mo.id
> >
> > *order* *by* mo.hierarchy, *x*.Currency
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks & Regards;
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *********
> >
> > *Zayyad A. Said | Chairman & C.E.O*
> >
> >
> >
> > Cell No.: +254 716 615274 | Skype: *zsaid2011*
> >
> > Email: zay...@intrasofttechnologies.com
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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