Hi all,

> Maybe the whole framework in mobile-mode should ignore mouseDown and
> determine if the gesture is a tap or not before assigning focus.
Please don’t do that, current framework’s FocusManager is doing fine, if Flex 
team makes any serious upgrades to it, it will impact a lot of things already 
done for mobile!

> You don't need to show to StageText to make a bitmap of it, it works even 
> when not visible.
Haven’t tried that yet, thanks for the tip, I’ll give it a shot.

> This is also how ScrollableStageText works.  It derives from UIComponent, and 
> can be used as part in ScrollingStageTextInputSkin / 
> ScrollingStageTextAreaSkin mxml skins.
> It's the textDisplay skin part.

I highly recommend you extends SpriteVisualElement rather than UIComponent. 
UIComponent has a lot of stuff you probably will never use, and it’s a bit 
heavy for mobile text component.
The SpriteVisualElement class helps you implemented IVisualElement interface in 
a quite lighter way than UIComponent, and it supports mxml as well.

And why you develop ScrollingStageTextInput and ScrollingStageTextArea and 
their skins (ScrollingStageTextInputSkin and ScrollingStageTextAreaSkin)? I 
don’t think that’s necessary.

Just extends VisualElement and implements the IEditableText, it will work the 
way like a RichEditableText (but less powerful than RichEditableText), you can 
use it in Spark TextInputSkin / TextAreaSkin as a skin part.

You don’t have to develop ScrollingStageTextInput and ScrollingStageTextArea 
and their skins, just use the Spark TextInput and TextArea, they are doing fine.


DarkStone
2013-11-25



在 2013-11-24,23:44,Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> 写道:

> All this reminded me that I don't think there were any serious upgrades to
> FocusManager for mobile, and it is quite possible that there should be.
> Maybe the whole framework in mobile-mode should ignore mouseDown and
> determine if the gesture is a tap or not before assigning focus.
> 
> In FlexJS with the plug-ins, it allows for a possibility of a
> touch-oriented FocusManager if one is needed.
> 
> -Alex
> 
> On 11/24/13 2:40 AM, "Maurice Amsellem" <maurice.amsel...@systar.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> BTW, I haven't tried any versions of your code, but I'm still surprised
>>> that text selection works.  I would think that trying to swipe-select a
>>> word or placing the insertion cursor >at an exact spot would also be
>>> problematic with the bitmap proxy in the way.
>> 
>> You must put the focus on the text before doing any selection (that usual
>> on mobile). So when you focus, the proxy is hidden and the StageText
>> shown, that's why it works.
>> 
>>> Let's step back a bit.  Why is it too late to detect scrolling on
>>> mousedown?  The MX DataGrid tears down its item editors when scrolling
>>> starts.  Isn't that similar?
>> The diifrence is that on Desktop, you scroll with the scroll bar, whereas
>> on mobile, you scroll by "swiping" directly on the content.
>> This causes issue for  focusing text, but also for selecting an item in a
>> list, etc...
>> So there is a general mechanism that is implemented in TouchScrollingHelp
>> (IIUC) that detects such behavior based on timers and movement thresholds
>> and will trigger touchInteractionStart.
>> 
>> As DarkStone says, touchInteractionStart is triggered after mousedown, so
>> if the focus in bound to mouseDown, it's too late.
>> 
>>> Does there really need to be more than one StageText instance in play?
>>> When TI1 loses focus can TI2 use that same StageText instance?
>> 
>> Actually, it does:  ScrollingStageText uses an internal pool, that will
>> reuse the same instance if it has the same properties (multiline, font
>> size, etc).
>> 
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com]
>> Envoyé : dimanche 24 novembre 2013 06:38
>> À : dev@flex.apache.org
>> Objet : Re: Mobile TextInput swipe
>> 
>> BTW, I haven't tried any versions of your code, but I'm still surprised
>> that text selection works.  I would think that trying to swipe-select a
>> word or placing the insertion cursor at an exact spot would also be
>> problematic with the bitmap proxy in the way.
>> 
>> Let's step back a bit.  Why is it too late to detect scrolling on
>> mousedown?  The MX DataGrid tears down its item editors when scrolling
>> starts.  Isn't that similar?
>> 
>> Does there really need to be more than one StageText instance in play?
>> When TI1 loses focus can TI2 use that same StageText instance?
>> 
>> 
>> -Alex
>> 
>> On 11/23/13 5:22 PM, "Maurice Amsellem" <maurice.amsel...@systar.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Team,
>>> 
>>> I am currently working on the swipe issue with ScrollableStageText on
>>> mobile and would like your advice / help
>>> 
>>> The issue is the following:  you cannot initiate a scroll/swipe by
>>> touching inside a TextInput or TextArea.
>>> 
>>> 1)  current situation:
>>> 
>>> - in ScrollableStageText, the StageText is only shown when TI is in
>>> focus, and is replaced by a proxy when out of focus.
>>> - when scrolling, only the proxies are scrolled, so it works well.
>>> 
>>> - when editing TI2 after TI1:
>>> -  TI1 receives focus out  => TI1 stageText is hidden, proxy shown
>>> -  TI2 receives the focus on mouse down => TI2 stage text is focused
>>> -  stageText for TI2 is displayed (and proxy hidden)
>>> 
>>> => the problem, is that since focus is set on mousedown, it's too late
>>> to detect scrolling,  so I had to prevent it, by calling
>>> event.preventDefautl() in touchInteractionStarting handler.
>>> 
>>> 2) proposed solution
>>> To overcome that issue, I changed the focus to be set on MOUSE UP,
>>> instead of mouse down, so that I can detection touch scroll, and
>>> prevent editing.
>>> 
>>> It works pretty well but has the following side effect :
>>> When editing TI1 after TI2, the soft keyboard (which was visible),
>>> lowers when pressing TI2, and raises back when releasing your finger.
>>> 
>>> The reason for that is that is when pressing TI2:
>>> - TI1 has received focus out, so its StageText it's not visible anymore
>>> - TI2 did not receive focus yet, so its stageText is not visible yet =>
>>> no stageText, no SoftKeyboard.
>>> TI2 stage text is assigned focus only when finger is released.
>>> 
>>> 3) proposed solution to the side effect:
>>> Since the only way of having a soft keyboard visible is to have an
>>> active StageText, and call assingFocus() on it, I added a  dummy static
>>> StageText to the stage, with no text and a viewport extent of 0,0.
>>> This stageText is assigned focus between the time finger is pressed, so
>>> TI1 and TI2 stage texts are not visible, and the finger is released,
>>> where TI2 stage text is displayed.
>>> That way, the soft keyboard does not disappear.
>>> ______________
>>> 
>>> It works well, but I consider the dummy StageText as a HORRIBLE HACK.
>>> So if someone has a better solution that also meets the requirements, I
>>> will be happy to take it.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Maurice
>>> 
>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>> De : Maurice Amsellem [mailto:maurice.amsel...@systar.com]
>>> Envoyé : vendredi 22 novembre 2013 11:37 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet
>>> : RE: Mobile TextInput Implementation status
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I fixed the two issues that were reported in the JIRA ticket by Colins
>>> Childs.
>>> 
>>> fixed two issues reported above:
>>> - two focused text inputs
>>> - stage text floating above content.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Committed and pushed to develop branch
>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=flex-sdk.git;a=commit;h=9e4bf
>>> 21f
>>> 
>>> Mobile Mustella test pass:
>>> - mobile/components/TextInput
>>> - mobile/compoents/TextArea
>>> - mobile/Softkeyboard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>> De : Maurice Amsellem [mailto:maurice.amsel...@systar.com]
>>> Envoyé : mardi 19 novembre 2013 18:18
>>> À : dev@flex.apache.org
>>> Objet : RE: Mobile TextInput Implementation status
>>> 
>>> Sure. You need mobilecomponents and mobiletheme
>>> 
>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>> De : omup...@gmail.com [mailto:omup...@gmail.com] De la part de
>>> OmPrakash Muppirala Envoyé : mardi 19 novembre 2013 18:14 À :
>>> dev@flex.apache.org Objet : RE: Mobile TextInput Implementation status
>>> 
>>> On Nov 19, 2013 9:05 AM, "Maurice Amsellem"
>>> <maurice.amsel...@systar.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Since jenkins is down, do you need the updated swc ?
>>> 
>>> Which project is it?  I can just compile it and drop it in the sdk
>>> directory.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Om
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>> De : omup...@gmail.com [mailto:omup...@gmail.com] De la part de
>>>> OmPrakash
>>> Muppirala
>>>> Envoyé : mardi 19 novembre 2013 17:55 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet :
>>>> RE: Mobile TextInput Implementation status
>>>> 
>>>> On Nov 19, 2013 4:53 AM, "Maurice Amsellem"
>>>> <maurice.amsel...@systar.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Fixed a few other issues
>>>>> (see https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33166)
>>>>>> FIXED : Soft keyboard partially closes/opens  when moving the
>>>>>> focus
>>>> from one TI to another.
>>>>>> to fix the issue above, had to trigger TI edition on mousedown
>>>>>> instead
>>>> of mouse click (like in StyleableStageText)
>>>>>> fixed bug caused by the above.
>>>>> 
>>>>> All related mustella test pass. ( mobile/TextInput,
>>>>> mobile/TextArea,
>>>> mobile/SoftKeyboard)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Om, can you please make a last test run on Android, so I can close
>>>>> the
>>>> ticket.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Will do, later in the night for me.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Om
>>>> 
>>>>> Maurice
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>>> De : Maurice Amsellem [mailto:maurice.amsel...@systar.com]
>>>>> Envoyé : mardi 19 novembre 2013 00:36 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet
>>>>> : RE: Mobile TextInput Implementation status
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just received results of Om testing on Android (Tested on Samsung
>>>>> Galaxy
>>>> SIII (Android 4.1.2) and Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 (Android 4.2.2)).
>>>>> It's working fine.
>>>>> Thanks you Om for the quick testing, that's really good news.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Maurice
>>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>>> De : Maurice Amsellem [mailto:maurice.amsel...@systar.com]
>>>>> Envoyé : lundi 18 novembre 2013 16:49 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet
>>>>> : Mobile TextInput Implementation status
>>>>> 
>>>>> Memory profiling of the new skins:
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's as expected:  alloc memory =  pixel width x pixel height x
>>>>> 4bytes
>>>> per pixel.
>>>>> 
>>>>> First figure is for iPad , second is for iPad retina.
>>>>> 
>>>>> - 25KB / 100 KB of bitmap memory allocated for a single line TI
>>>>> with
>>>> default size
>>>>> - ~500KB / ~ 2 MB for a pages stuffed with text inputs / text Areas
>>>>> - 3 MB / 12 MB for a full-page TA => in this case, it's better to
>>>>> use the
>>>> old skins.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The bitmap is allocated while the TI is added to the stage, and
>>>>> disposed
>>>> when it's  removed from the stage
>>>>> 
>>>>> Maurice
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>>> De : Maurice Amsellem [mailto:maurice.amsel...@systar.com]
>>>>> Envoyé : lundi 18 novembre 2013 02:10 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet
>>>>> : RE: Mobile TextInput Implementation status
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1) to help debug if something goes wrong on Android, you can set
>>>>> the
>>>> following mx_internal flag:
>>>>> ScrollableStageText.debugProxyImage = true;
>>>>> 
>>>>> It will display the proxy bitmaps in magenta background.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2) proxy methods in ScrollableStageText has been abstracted on
>>>>> purpose to
>>>> DisplayObject instead of Bitmap.
>>>>> This is so  that one could override the class to use another proxy
>>>> (eg.
>>>> StyleableTextField) which is less memory consuming than bitmaps.
>>>>> In wich case, you will have to override:
>>>>> createProxy
>>>>> updateProxy
>>>>> disposeProxy
>>>>> 
>>>>> 3) StageTextSkinBase inner textDisplay creation method is
>>>>> externalized so
>>>> that it can be customized.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Example for ScrollableStageTextInputSkin:
>>>>>   override protected function
>>> createTextDisplay():IStyleableEditableText
>>>>>    {
>>>>>        return new ScrollableStageText(multiline);
>>>>>    }
>>>>> 
>>>>> That way, you can derive from existing skins, instead of monkey
>>>>> patching
>>>> the default skin, if you only need to change the internal editable
>>>> text
>>> class.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Note also that displayText is now of type IStyleableEditableText,
>>>>> instead
>>>> of StyleableStageText, for the same purpose.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Maurice
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>>> De : Maurice Amsellem [mailto:maurice.amsel...@systar.com]
>>>>> Envoyé : lundi 18 novembre 2013 01:49 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet
>>>>> : RE: Mobile TextInput Implementation status
>>>>> 
>>>>> Run mustella tests:
>>>>> Mobile/Components/TextInput
>>>>> Mobile/components/TextArea
>>>>> Mobile/StageText
>>>>> 
>>>>> All pass.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Maurice
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>>> De : Maurice Amsellem [mailto:maurice.amsel...@systar.com]
>>>>> Envoyé : lundi 18 novembre 2013 01:11 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet
>>>>> : RE: Mobile TextInput Implementation status
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi, I have committed and pushed tentative fix for
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33166
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tested on iPad 2 / 3.
>>>>> Not tested on Android.
>>>>> I couldn't run mustella mobile tests.  For some reason, they are
>>>>> broken
>>>> on my machine ( says:  Passes: 0 / Fails: 0).
>>>>> 
>>>>> The new skins are now the defaults for TextInput and TextArea on
>>>> mobile:
>>>>> 
>>>>> TextInput skinClass =
>>>>> spark.skins.mobile.ScrollingStageTextInputSkin
>>>>> TextArea skinClass = spark.skins.mobile.ScrollingStageTextAreaSkin
>>>>> 
>>>>> The old skins are still there, under the same name.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please review and tests, and this is a sensitive change...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Your comments and feedback are welcome.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Maurice
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>>> De : Maurice Amsellem [mailto:maurice.amsel...@systar.com]
>>>>> Envoyé : lundi 18 novembre 2013 00:08 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet
>>>>> : RE: Mobile TextInput Implementation status
>>>>> 
>>>>> Founds some bugs, so I won't commit until they are fixed...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Maurice
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>>> De : Maurice Amsellem [mailto:maurice.amsel...@systar.com]
>>>>> Envoyé : dimanche 17 novembre 2013 21:18 À : dev@flex.apache.org
>>>> Objet :
>>>> RE: Mobile TextInput Implementation status
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I can help out with Android testing.
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Should I wait for the nightly or are these fixes on a branch?
>>>>>> Nightly
>>>> would be preferable so as to allow more people to test the fix.
>>>>> I will push to the develop/ so that they be in the nightly
>>>>> 
>>>>>> It would be better to keep the old one around with the same name.
>>>>>> Folks
>>>> might have subclassed it to build their own implementations.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What about :
>>>>> ScrollableStageText
>>>>> ScrollableStageTextInputSkin
>>>>> 
>>>>> For the new classes ?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Maurice
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>>> De : omup...@gmail.com [mailto:omup...@gmail.com] De la part de
>>>>> OmPrakash
>>>> Muppirala Envoyé : dimanche 17 novembre 2013 20:27 À :
>>>> dev@flex.apache.orgObjet : Re: Mobile TextInput Implementation status
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 17, 2013 10:56 AM, "Maurice Amsellem"
>>>>> <maurice.amsel...@systar.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Here is a brief status of the implementation of Mobile Text
>>>>>> Input, along
>>>>> with some questions:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Implementation overview:
>>>>>> The change is mainly on the class StyleableStageText, which now
>>>>>> takes the
>>>>> opposite approach than the previous one:
>>>>>>  - display proxy image bitmap by default
>>>>>>  - display StageText only when editing
>>>>>> StageTextInputSkin/StageTextAreaSkin has been modified to use
>>>>>> this class
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - to make it easier to change StageTextInputSkin internal
>>>>> StyleableStageText component, the variable textDisplay is now of
>>>>> type
>>>> IStyleableEditText
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Behavior changes:
>>>>>>  - scrolling and overlapping of text is well managed , as it
>>>>>> always uses
>>>>> the bitmap proxy, which is a Flex component:  all the text inputs
>>>>> are
>>>> scrolling
>>>>>>  - text occluding while editing is not managed yet, which means
>>>>>> the
>>>>> edited text may overlap other UIs. (TO BE DONE)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Testing:
>>>>>>  - tested on iPad 2 and iPad 3:  TI in scrolling forms, TI in
>>> callouts
>>>>>>  - *NEEDS TO BE TESTED ON ANDROID*
>>>>>>  - memory consumption tests yet to be done
>>>>>>  - mustella test yet to be run
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Questions:
>>>>>> - Can someone please test on Android ?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I can help out with Android testing.  Should I wait for the nightly
>>>>> or
>>>> are these fixes on a branch?  Nightly  would be preferable so as to
>>>> allow
>>> more people to test the fix.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Om
>>>>> 
>>>>>> - I have chosen to directly  replace StyleableStageText.
>>>>>> Maybe I can also leave the old StyleableStageText with a
>>>>>> different name,
>>>>> so that it can be used in case there is an issue with the new one ?
>>>>> or
>>>> the other way?
>>>>> 
>>>>> It would be better to keep the old one around with the same name.
>>>>> Folks
>>>> might have subclassed it to build their own implementations.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Now that it is an interface, it's easy to subclass the
>>>>> StageTextInputSkin, and override createTextDisplay() to use another
>>> class.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Maurice
>>>>>> 
>> 
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