David, Adobe actually killed their AS4 project. A Flash Player with the AS4 VM won't ever be shipped.
-Nick On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 12:07 PM, <f...@dfguy.us> wrote: > The flash player is actually a good thing as a simple distribution point > for the VM. So it's just like downloading a browser or an app or anything > else. The FUD has definitely already taken place via the attacks on Flash > in general. A lot of those tech blogs have always been negative on Flash > for years for whatever reason and Steve Jobs was sort of the king of it. > The FUD was probably something he picked up from IBM all those years ago. > > At any rate all of that is irrelevant. What would be helpful would be what > makes sense to make good applications that run on lots of things well. > Flash did that but was limited by reliance on the CPU and timeline based > coding. Flex doesn't use the timeline unless you create separate animations > and stage3d uses the GPU. > > It seems to me that flex could be good in a new iteration if it leveraged > a new AS4 for stage3d but I don't know how you could emulate a lot of the > old code outside of redoing the whole thing or having some way to emulate > as3 code in the new runtime. > > What would be great is if you could knock all of things out and also add a > native web view that's more integrated so you could do pretty much anything > and everything. You could even dare I say run those new edge code > animations in the runtime. > > That would probably be a lot of work though and I'm not sure if Adobe is > brave enough to do anything interesting. > > David > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary Yang <flashflex...@gmail.com> > To: dev@flex.apache.org > Sent: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 10:34 AM > Subject: Re: [Forward]To Adobe Leaderships - A very bold and crazy > proposal about AS4 and Swift > > Opensource won't matter, because the core value is that end users trust > Adobe Flash Player, and they install it. > > > On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <nicho...@spoon.as> > wrote: > > > Andrei, > > > > There was a lengthy discussion at the 360|Flex conference a few weeks ago > > about Adobe open-sourcing the player. It won't happen. > > > > The Flash Player is essentially the Red Tamerian project (open source) > > https://code.google.com/p/redtamarin/ with a whole slew of properiety, > > licensed codecs, tools and other addins. Things like video playback, > text > > rendering, etc. are all things that Adobe has licensed from others that > > would prevent them from open-sourcing the player itself. They've already > > open-sourced the VM. > > > > -Nick > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Me.Com <and...@leapingbytes.net> wrote: > > > > > I hate people who write opinionated articles without bothering to learn > > > anything about the subject. Looks like Matt Baxter-Reynolds is one of > > them. > > > But then… I can not remember when I read anything really good at zdnet… > > so > > > it all fit together. > > > > > > Back to original idea - my only question is why bother? Personally I > > > think the only thing we (flash developers) should be asking for - is > for > > > Adobe to open source the player. As of now - player is the weakest link > > and > > > the one which is beyond the rich of open source community. > > > > > > Just my $0.02 > > > > > > -- > > > Me.Com > > > Sent with Airmail > > > > > > On June 3, 2014 at 16:19:07 , Erik de Bruin (e...@ixsoftware.nl) > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > May I ask why you said "Technologically no"? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because Swift sucks > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > http://www.zdnet.com/apples-new-swift-development-language-highlights-the-companys-worst-side-7000030150/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is not a forum to aid in the spreading of FUD. All this guy has to > > say > > > about Swift is that it sucks because it doesn't allow you to develop > > > Android apps... If a tool sucks because it doesn't support each and > every > > > fragmented mobile OS out there, it seems to me they all suck. > > > > > > EdB > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Ix Multimedia Software > > > > > > Jan Luykenstraat 27 > > > 3521 VB Utrecht > > > > > > T. 06-51952295 > > > I. www.ixsoftware.nl > > > > > >
