No worries.
I'll compile all the changes raised in this thread and come up with 2 - 3
variations and then we can take it forward.

Cheers!

On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote:

>
>
> On 10/14/14, 9:11 PM, "Deepak MS" <megharajdee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Okay. So what is the next step now?
> Maybe a bit more discussion.
>
> >Are we planning to send the new design to them? Or do we need any more
> >changes in new design?
> I am not any good at visual design, so I don’t know what is possible and
> how much time folks have.  My instincts say that spending a few more
> emails on this thread to try to nail a design that satisfies everyone who
> has said something negative so far would be worth it, but I’m not the one
> who is making the new artwork.  If we think it will be more efficient just
> to see if the ASF is open to changing the outer ring, I will go and ask,
> but usually folks will want to see how much better it will look if
> changed, which is why I think we should try to nail a “perfect” design.
>
> So far, I’ve heard about the rotation of the stars, then what I’ll call
> the “y” position of the two stars, plus someone pointed out some kerning
> issues, which I think reference the difference in inter-character spacing
> between “Powered By” vs “Apache” (“Apache” has more space between the
> letters).
>
> If you or someone can come up with a design that tightens the
> inter-character spacing in “Apache” we can see how that looks.  It might
> leave too much space between the stars and “Apache” or make you want to
> drop the stars even further down.
>
> If someone has time, I’d like to also see a design where the star’s “y” is
> below the mid-point vertically, but the Flex logo is shrunk a bit and
> moved down so its “waist-line” lines up with the stars.  We might even be
> able to stick the word “Flex” or “Apache Flex” on top of the logo after
> doing that.
>
> Thanks for your offerings so far,
> -Alex
>
> >
> >On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I was hoping we’d come up with some design we all like better so we have
> >> something that looks really good when we petition for a change.  Then we
> >> can say, “we like this better because, a, b, c” and maybe list some
> >> concerns and then the original design team can respond to it.  But if it
> >> looks like everything we can think of has trade-offs, maybe it is better
> >> to get feedback from the original design team about why the stars aren’t
> >> horizontally aligned?  And maybe ask questions about kerning?
> >>
> >> The original design team donated their services so they aren’t obligated
> >> to make improvements.  If folks here have the time to work on the next
> >> iteration of these designs, the original design team may take us up on
> >>it.
> >>
> >> -Alex
> >>
> >> On 10/14/14, 2:35 AM, "Deepak MS" <megharajdee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Agreed!
> >> >If they agree, we can make any number of changes to it. But if they
> >>wont
> >> >agree, there is no point in discussing\working on changes at all.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Tom Chiverton <t...@extravision.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> At this point it might be worth contacting pr...@apache.org <mailto:
> >> >> pr...@apache.org> to get their view on the matter, as the guidelines
> >>on
> >> >> http://apache.org/foundation/press/kit/ are fairly stern about not
> >> >> changing the outline elements because then it breaks the branding
> >>with
> >> >>all
> >> >> the other Apache projects.
> >> >> We may just be repeating issues another design team has already had,
> >>and
> >> >> come up with the current best compromise.
> >> >>
> >> >> Certainly they'd be able to send the raw version of the 'stamp' I'd
> >>have
> >> >> thought.
> >> >>
> >> >> Tom
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 14/10/14 09:27, jude wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> I think you could get away with moving the stars down a little bit
> >>but
> >> >>>the
> >> >>> more major issue is fixing the kerning, the space between the
> >> >>>characters,
> >> >>> in the, "Powered by" text. If you know what the font is I can try to
> >> >>> recreate it.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
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