I don't know enough about how Flex Tool Groups work to form an opinion.
Can you provide more details and explain how folks would configure things
on the command-line?

AIUI, -js-output-type is sort of overloaded right now, because the
FLEXJS_DUAL dictates the output of a SWF.  In my plan to combine things, I
would introduce a new configuration parameter like -output-type or
-targets or something like that.  I supposed it could be a list of
compiler jars to run.  But -js-output-type doesn't currently go through
different jars for JSC, NODE, and FLEXJS.  That parameter just sets up a
few configuration changes within the output classes.

I'm pretty sure Schmalle imagined a true plug-in architecture for the
emitters as well.  Not sure we want to take all of that on right now, but
we might want to consider that as well.

-Alex

On 10/7/16, 12:14 AM, "Christofer Dutz" <christofer.d...@c-ware.de> wrote:

>I would like to propose a different approach:
>
>
>Unless these approaches led to a dead end and there is no solution down
>that path, I would rather suggest to refactor the compiler to allow
>dynamic adding of alternate compilers. Currently the supported compilers
>are limited by the JsOutputType enum. If we however used something like
>the Java service thing I used for the Flex Tool Groups, we could allow
>new experiments to start in dedicated Jars and we wouldn't have such a
>mixture in case someone wants to try something out.
>
>
>Chris
>
>________________________________
>Von: Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com>
>Gesendet: Freitag, 7. Oktober 2016 00:25:30
>An: dev@flex.apache.org
>Betreff: Re: [FALCONJX] Combining SWF and JS compilers (was Re: AW:
>[FalconJX][FlexJS] COMPJSC and Build order)
>
>+1.  Bonus points for making a tag and/or branch before deleting.
>
>-Alex
>
>On 10/6/16, 3:02 PM, "Josh Tynjala" <joshtynj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Makes sense to me. I say we simply delete it. No need to transfer to
>>another folder. It'll still be in the repository's history.
>>
>>- Josh
>>
>>On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Carlos Rovira
>><carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com
>>> wrote:
>>
>>> I want to propose the same. I something was an experiment and is no
>>>more
>>> developed. I think it should go to some folder that make people avoid
>>> confusion about what code is valid and what is left behind.
>>>
>>> 2016-10-06 23:12 GMT+02:00 Christofer Dutz <christofer.d...@c-ware.de>:
>>>
>>> > I stumble over tons of VF2JS classes and think it would be better to
>>>move
>>> > stuf like that to some sort of attic. What do you think?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Chris
>>> >
>>> > ________________________________
>>> > Von: Josh Tynjala <joshtynj...@gmail.com>
>>> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 6. Oktober 2016 17:13:49
>>> > An: dev@flex.apache.org
>>> > Betreff: Re: [FALCONJX] Combining SWF and JS compilers (was Re: AW:
>>> > [FalconJX][FlexJS] COMPJSC and Build order)
>>> >
>>> > JSC is meant to be purely an ActionScript to JavaScript transpiler
>>> without
>>> > any frameworks. By default, it doesn't export an HTML file, but it
>>>will
>>> > optionally support custom HTML templates in 0.8.0. It is exposed
>>>through
>>> > the js/bin/asjsc executable, where it loads the
>>>frameworks/js-config.xml
>>> > configuration. js-config.xml references js.swc to give ActionScript
>>> access
>>> > to browser APIs.
>>> >
>>> > NODE generates an index.js that bootstraps things for Node.js. It is
>>> > exposed through the js/bin/asnodec executable, which it loads the
>>> > frameworks/node-config.xml configuration. In addition to js.swc,
>>> > node-config.xml references node.swc to give ActionScript access to
>>> Node.js
>>> > APIs.
>>> >
>>> > As far as I know, AMD and VF2JS are no longer maintained. I assume
>>>AMD
>>> > tried to output AMD modules instead of goog modules. I remember Alex
>>>or
>>> > someone mentioning that VF2JS had something to do with the original
>>>Flex
>>> > framework, but I don't know the details.
>>> >
>>> > - Josh
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 12:10 AM, Christofer Dutz <
>>> > christofer.d...@c-ware.de>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Hi Alex,
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > yesterday I stumbled over this flexjs-dual output type while
>>>looking
>>> for
>>> > > the correct settings to buid a pure JS app. Would it be possible
>>>for
>>> you
>>> > > guys to give a short summary of what the different output types
>>> actually
>>> > > are? The enum doesn't contain any documentation on this and I guess
>>> this
>>> > > would be really helpful.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > So far I see these output types:
>>> > >
>>> > > AMD
>>> > > FLEXJS
>>> > > GOOG
>>> > > VF2JS
>>> > > FLEXJS_DUAL
>>> > > JSC
>>> > > NODE
>>> > >
>>> > > And I guess I only used no value and FLEXJS
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Chris
>>> > >
>>> > > ________________________________
>>> > > Von: Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com>
>>> > > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 6. Oktober 2016 07:45:48
>>> > > An: dev@flex.apache.org
>>> > > Betreff: [FALCONJX] Combining SWF and JS compilers (was Re: AW:
>>> > > [FalconJX][FlexJS] COMPJSC and Build order)
>>> > >
>>> > > Fred Thomas did some work in this area about a year ago.  In the
>>> > > flex-oem-compiler module that FB (and maybe other IDEs) use to talk
>>>to
>>> > the
>>> > > compiler, he added a FLEXJS_DUAL -js-output-type.  Not sure how
>>>well it
>>> > > works.
>>> > >
>>> > > Thinking about this some more we'd have to have the same
>>>configuration
>>> > > options available to both compilers which might be a bit strange.
>>>Or
>>> > > maybe we can convince the compilers to not complain about unknown
>>> config
>>> > > parameters.
>>> > >
>>> > > We'd have to decide on how to reset the library-path for each
>>>compile.
>>> > > The JS compile might use different SWCs than the SWF compile.
>>> > >
>>> > > We'd have to select a few conditional compile options that would be
>>> > > different for each compiler.  For example, COMPILE::SWF would be
>>>true
>>> for
>>> > > SWF compiling and false for JS compiling and vice versa, and maybe
>>> > finding
>>> > > those params on the command-line would have no effect since they
>>>would
>>> be
>>> > > dictated by the compiler.
>>> > >
>>> > > Thoughts?
>>> > > -Alex
>>> > >
>>> > > On 10/2/16, 1:45 PM, "Josh Tynjala" <joshtynj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > >That would be ideal!
>>> > > >
>>> > > >- Josh
>>> > > >
>>> > > >On Oct 1, 2016 10:47 PM, "Alex Harui" <aha...@adobe.com> wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > >> One more thought on this:  now that COMPJSC can more or less
>>>build
>>> its
>>> > > >>own
>>> > > >> output instead of relying on COMPC to package its pile of .js
>>>files,
>>> > it
>>> > > >> might be worth experimenting with combining Falcon and FalconJX
>>>so
>>> > COMPC
>>> > > >> can produce a SWC or a SWC with JS files based on some
>>>configuration
>>> > > >> parameter.  Then there would only be one compiler that produces
>>>SWFs
>>> > or
>>> > > >>JS
>>> > > >> based on some -output-type flag.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> Thoughts?
>>> > > >> -Alex
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> On 10/1/16, 10:18 PM, "Alex Harui" <aha...@adobe.com> wrote:
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> >Hi Chris,
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> >When I read this, I realized I already pushed the changes when
>>>I
>>> > pushed
>>> > > >> >some other changes yesterday.  If the Maven build didn't blow
>>>up,
>>> it
>>> > is
>>> > > >> >probably because it is using its own compile-xx-config.xml
>>>files so
>>> > is
>>> > > >> >still generating a pile of .js files and packaging them up on
>>>the
>>> SWF
>>> > > >> >COMPC run.
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> >-Alex
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> >On 10/1/16, 6:10 AM, "Christofer Dutz"
>>><christofer.d...@c-ware.de>
>>> > > >>wrote:
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> >>Hi Alex,
>>> > > >> >>
>>> > > >> >>
>>> > > >> >>so I guess ideally this change should be done on a feature
>>>branch,
>>> > so
>>> > > >>I
>>> > > >> >>can sort out the Maven issues and we'll merge that back as
>>>soon as
>>> > > >>all is
>>> > > >> >>working. I would like to ask you to create a
>>> > > >>"feature-autobuild/"-branch
>>> > > >> >>for that. Just give me a short note what branch the stuff is
>>>in
>>> and
>>> > > >>I'll
>>> > > >> >>try to sort out the Maven issues.
>>> > > >> >>
>>> > > >> >>
>>> > > >> >>Chris
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
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