Ah I see, Stephan and I had a quick chat and it's for cases where there are
42s around the edges of the key/namespace.

On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 at 11:51 Aljoscha Krettek <aljos...@apache.org> wrote:

> In which cases is it not solved? Because then we should make sure to solve
> it.
>
> On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 at 10:33 Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Got it. But the ambiguity is not really solved by that, just lessened.
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 2:10 PM, Aljoscha Krettek <aljos...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > @Stephan It's not about the serializers not being able to read the key.
>> The
>> > key/namespace are never read again. It's just about the serialized form
>> > possibly being ambiguous since we don't control the TypeSerializers and
>> > there might be wanky var-length encoding schemes and what not.
>> >
>> > On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 at 19:20 Timothy Farkas <
>> timothytiborfar...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > I've faced a similar issue when serializing data two a key value
>> store.
>> > Not
>> > > sure how helpful it is for this case but two possible solutions I've
>> used
>> > > for persisting keys and values under different namespaces to the same
>> key
>> > > value store are:
>> > >
>> > > - have all namespaces be the same number of bytes and prefix each key
>> > with
>> > > its namespace.
>> > > - Include the number of bytes in the name space and key. So the bytes
>> > would
>> > > look like this:
>> > >
>> > > [name space num bytes] [ name space] [key num bytes] [key]
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > > Tim
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 9:45 AM, Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Every serializer should know how many bytes to consume. The key
>> > > serializer
>> > > > should not need to look for 42 to know where to terminate.
>> > > >
>> > > > Otherwise this would be a problem case:
>> > > > key[42, 42] - 42 - namespace [42, 42, 42]
>> > > > key[42, 42, 42] - 42 - namespace [42, 42]
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 5:38 PM, Aljoscha Krettek <
>> aljos...@apache.org
>> > >
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > I left that in on purpose to protect against cases where the
>> > > combination
>> > > > > of key and namespace can be ambiguous. For example, these two
>> > > > combinations
>> > > > > of key and namespace have the same written representation:
>> > > > > key [0 1 2] namespace [3 4 5] (values in brackets are byte arrays)
>> > > > > key [0 1] namespace [2 3 4 5]
>> > > > >
>> > > > > having the "magic number" in there protects against such cases.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 at 16:31 Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> My assumption is that this was a sanity check that actually just
>> > stuck
>> > > > in
>> > > > >> the code.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> It can probably be removed.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> PS: Moving this to the dev@flink.apache.org list...
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 11:05 AM, 刘彪 <mmyy1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> > In AbstractRocksDBState.writeKeyAndNamespace():
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > protected void writeKeyAndNamespace(DataOutputView out) throws
>> > > > >> IOException
>> > > > >> > {
>> > > > >> > backend.keySerializer().serialize(backend.currentKey(), out);
>> > > > >> > out.writeByte(42);
>> > > > >> > namespaceSerializer.serialize(currentNamespace, out);
>> > > > >> > }
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > Why write a byte 42 between key and namespace? The
>> keySerializer
>> > and
>> > > > >> > namespaceSerializer know their lengths. It seems we don't need
>> > this
>> > > > >> byte.
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > Could anybody tell me what it is for?  Is there any situation
>> that
>> > > we
>> > > > >> must
>> > > > >> > have this separator?
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
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