I would like to start working on this.

I've looked into adding a flink-shaded-guava module. Working against the shaded namespaces seems to work without problems from the IDE, and we could forbid un-shaded usages with checkstyle.

So for the list of dependencies that we want to shade we currently got:

 * asm
 * guava
 * netty
 * hadoop
 * curator

I've had a chat with Stephan Ewan and he brought up kryo + chill as well.

The nice thing is that we can do this incrementally, one dependency at a time. As such i would propose
to go through the whole process for guava and see what problems arise.

This would include adding a flink-shaded module and a child flink-shaded-guava module to the flink repository that are not part of the build process, replacing all usages of guava in Flink, adding the
checkstyle rule (optional) and deploying the artifact to maven central.

On 11.05.2017 10:54, Stephan Ewen wrote:
@Ufuk  - I have never set up artifact deployment in Maven, could need some
help there.

Regarding shading Netty, I agree, would be good to do that as well...

On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 10:52 AM, Ufuk Celebi <u...@apache.org> wrote:

The advantages you've listed sound really compelling to me.

- Do you have time to implement these changes or do we need a volunteer? ;)

- I assume that republishing the artifacts as you propose doesn't have
any new legal implications since we already publish them with our
JARs, right?

- We might think about adding Netty to the list of shaded artifacts
since some dependency conflicts were reported recently. Would have to
double check the reported issues before doing that though. ;-)

– Ufuk


On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 8:45 PM, Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org> wrote:
@chesnay: I used ASM as an example in the proposal. Maybe I did not say
that clearly.

If we like that approach, we should deal with the other libraries (at
least
the frequently used ones) in the same way.


I would imagine to have a project layout like that:

flink-shaded-deps
   - flink-shaded-asm
   - flink-shaded-guava
   - flink-shaded-curator
   - flink-shaded-hadoop


"flink-shaded-deps" would not be built every time (and not be released
every time), but only when needed.






On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 7:28 PM, Chesnay Schepler <ches...@apache.org>
wrote:

I like the idea, thank you for bringing it up.

Given that the raised problems aren't really ASM specific would it make
sense to create one flink-shaded module that contains all frequently
shaded
libraries? (or maybe even all shaded dependencies by core modules) The
proposal limits the scope of this to ASM and i was wondering why.

I also remember that there was a discussion recently about why we shade
things at all, and the idea of working against the shaded namespaces was
brought up. Back then i was expressing doubts as to whether IDE's would
properly support this; what's the state on that?

On 10.05.2017 18:18, Stephan Ewen wrote:

Hi!

This is a discussion about altering the way we handle dependencies and
shading in Flink.
I ran into quite a view problems trying to adjust / fix some shading
issues
during release validation.

The issue is tracked under: https://issues.apache.org/jira
/browse/FLINK-6529
Bring this discussion thread up because it is a bigger issue

*Problem*

Currently, Flink shades dependencies like ASM and Guava into all jars
of
projects that reference it and relocate the classes.

There are some drawbacks to that approach, let's discuss them at the
example of ASM:

    - The ASM classes are for example in flink-core, flink-java,
flink-scala,
flink-runtime, etc.

    - Users that reference these dependencies have the classes multiple
times
in the classpath. That is unclean (works, through, because the classes
are
identical). The same happens when building the final dist. jar.

    - Some of these dependencies require to include license files in the
shaded jar. It is hard to impossible to build a good automatic solution
for
that, partly due to Maven's very poor cross-project path support

    - Most importantly: Scala does not support shading really well.
Scala
classes have references to classes in more places than just the class
names
(apparently for Scala reflect support). Referencing a Scala project
with
shaded ASM still requires to add a reference to unshaded ASM (at least
as
a
compile dependency).

*Proposal*

I propose that we build and deploy a asm-flink-shaded version of ASM
and
directly program against the relocated namespaces. Since we never use
classes that we relocate in public interfaces, Flink users will never
see
the relocated class names. Internally, it does not hurt to use them.

    - Proper maven dependency management, no hidden (shaded)
dependencies
    - One copy of each class for shaded dependencies

    - Proper Scala interoperability

    - Natural License management (license is part of deployed
asm-flink-shaded jar)


Happy to hear thoughts!

Stephan



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