Hi,

I think the "savepoints for recovery" change is a fix for likely violation of 
exactly-once guarantees while it has close to zero downsides in real-world use 
cases. Therefore I think we should not revert it and release the fix for 1.5.5 
and 1.6.2.

Best,
Aljoscha

> On 16. Oct 2018, at 13:48, Chesnay Schepler <ches...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> I agree that these change the behavior of Flink and could cause issues for 
> users, hence I would be in favor of reverting said changes.
> 
> On 16.10.2018 13:46, Till Rohrmann wrote:
>> Sorry for the late notification, but I think we have some changes in the 
>> release branches which we might consider for reverting.
>> 
>> 1) Savepoints being considered for recovery [1]
>> 
>> The problem is that we change Flink's savepoint contract in the sense that 
>> savepoint's are no longer exclusively under the control of the user.
>> 
>> 2) Run metric's query service in separate actor system [2]
>> 
>> The problem is that we start a new ActorSystem for the MetricQueryService 
>> which needs another port being opened to communicate.
>> 
>> What do you think?
>> 
>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-10354
>> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-10247
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Till
>> 
>> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 8:52 AM Chesnay Schepler <ches...@apache.org 
>> <mailto:ches...@apache.org> <mailto:ches...@apache.org 
>> <mailto:ches...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>> 
>>    My issues have been merged as well.
>> 
>>    I will cut the release branches in 3 hours.
>> 
>>    On 15.10.2018 22:11, Till Rohrmann wrote:
>>    > FLINK-9932 has been merged.
>>    >
>>    > Cheers,
>>    > Till
>>    >
>>    > On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 1:19 PM Till Rohrmann
>>    <trohrm...@apache.org <mailto:trohrm...@apache.org> 
>> <mailto:trohrm...@apache.org <mailto:trohrm...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>>    >
>>    >> Thanks a lot for starting this discussion Chesnay. I fully
>>    agree that a
>>    >> new bug fix release would be justified.
>>    >>
>>    >> I'm currently working on FLINK-9932 which I would like to
>>    include in the
>>    >> next bug fix release. It should be done by the end of today.
>>    >>
>>    >> Cheers,
>>    >> Till
>>    >>
>>    >> On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 11:40 AM Chesnay Schepler
>>    <ches...@apache.org <mailto:ches...@apache.org> 
>> <mailto:ches...@apache.org <mailto:ches...@apache.org>>>
>>    >> wrote:
>>    >>
>>    >>> Hello,
>>    >>>
>>    >>> we've accumulated various fixes for 1.5.5 (24) and 1.6.2 (37) that
>>    >>> improve stability by quite a bit along with some neat
>>    usability fixes.
>>    >>>
>>    >>> I'm proposing to do the next bugfix releases soon (I suggest
>>    tomorrow as
>>    >>> a tentative vote date), and volunteer to handle the release
>>    process for
>>    >>> both of them.
>>    >>>
>>    >>> There are some back-ports that I myself want to get in first
>>    >>> (FLINK-10282, FLINK-10075, FLINK-10135) but this should be
>>    done by today.
>>    >>>
>>    >>>
>>    >>> Regards,
>>    >>>
>>    >>> Chesnay
>>    >>>
>>    >>>

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