Thanks for updating the Flip. It looks good to me.

+1 (binding)

Cheers,
Till

On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 4:12 PM Xintong Song <tonysong...@gmail.com> wrote:

> @Till @Andrey
>
> According to the comments, I just updated the FLIP document [1], with the
> following changes:
>
>    - Remove SlotID (in the section Protocol Changes)
>    - Updated implementation steps to reduce separated code paths. As far as
>    I can see at the moment, we do not need the feature option. We can add
> it
>    if later we find it necessary in the implementation.
>
>
> Thank you~
>
> Xintong Song
>
>
> [1]
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-56%3A+Dynamic+Slot+Allocation
>
> On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 11:01 AM Xintong Song <tonysong...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I'm not sure if I understand the implementation plan you suggested
> > correctly. To my understanding, it seems that all the steps except for
> step
> > 5 have to happen in strict order.
> >
> >    - Profiles to be used in step 2 is reported with step 1.
> >    - SlotProfile in TaskExecutorGateway#requestSlot in step 3 comes from
> >    profiles used in step 2.
> >    - Only if RM request slots from TM with profiles (step 3), would TM be
> >    able to do the proper bookkeeping (step 4)
> >    - Step 5 can be done as long as we have step 2.
> >    - Step 6 relies on both step 4  and step 5, for proper bookkeepings on
> >    both TM and RM sides before enabling non-default profiles.
> >
> > That means we can only work on the steps in the following order.
> > 1-2-3-4-6
> >    \-5-/
> >
> > What I'm trying to achieve with the current plan, is to have most of the
> > implementation steps paralleled, as the following. So that Andrey and I
> can
> > work concurrently without blocking each other too much.
> > 1-2-3-4
> >    \5-6-7
> >
> >
> > I also agree that it would be good to not add too much separate codes. I
> > would suggest leave that decision to the implementation time. E.g., if by
> > the time we do the TM side bookkeeping, the RM side has already
> implemented
> > requesting slots with profiles, then we do not need to separate the code
> > paths.
> >
> >
> > To that end, I think it makes sense to adjust step 5-7 to first use
> > default slot resource profiles for all the bookkeepings, and replace it
> > with the requested profiles at the end.
> >
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> >
> > Thank you~
> >
> > Xintong Song
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 7:59 PM Till Rohrmann <trohrm...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I think besides of point 1. and 3. there are no dependencies between the
> >> RM
> >> and TM side changes. Also, I'm not sure whether it makes sense to split
> >> the
> >> slot manager changes up into the proposed steps 5, 6 and 7.
> >>
> >> I would highly recommend to not add too much duplicate logic/separate
> code
> >> paths because it just adds blind spots which are probably not as well
> >> tested as the old code paths.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Till
> >>
> >> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 11:58 AM Xintong Song <tonysong...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Thanks for the comments, Till.
> >> >
> >> > - Agree on removing SlotID.
> >> >
> >> > - Regarding the implementation plan, it is true that we can possibly
> >> reduce
> >> > codes separated by the feature option. But I think to do that we need
> to
> >> > introduce more dependencies between implementation steps. With the
> >> current
> >> > plan, we can easily separate steps on the RM side and the TM side, and
> >> > start concurrently working on them after quickly updating the
> >> interfaces in
> >> > between. The feature will come alive when the steps on both RM/TM
> sides
> >> are
> >> > finished. Since we are planning to have two persons (Andrey and I)
> >> working
> >> > on this FLIP, I think the current plan is probably more convenient.
> >> >
> >> > Thank you~
> >> >
> >> > Xintong Song
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 5:09 PM Till Rohrmann <trohrm...@apache.org>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hi Xintong,
> >> > >
> >> > > thanks for starting the vote. The general plan looks good. Hence +1
> >> from
> >> > my
> >> > > side. I still have some minor comments one could think about:
> >> > >
> >> > > * As we no longer have predetermined slots on the TaskExecutor, I
> >> think
> >> > we
> >> > > can get rid of the SlotID. Instead, an allocated slot will be
> >> identified
> >> > by
> >> > > the AllocationID and the TaskManager's ResourceID in order to
> >> > differentiate
> >> > > duplicate registrations.
> >> > > * For the implementation plan, I believe there is only one tiny part
> >> on
> >> > the
> >> > > SlotManager for which we need a separate code path/feature flag
> which
> >> is
> >> > > how we find a matching slot. Everything else should be possible to
> >> > > implement in a way that it works with dynamic and static slot
> >> allocation:
> >> > > 1. Let TMs register with default slot profile at RM
> >> > > 2. Change SlotManager to use reported slot profiles instead of
> >> > > pre-calculated profiles
> >> > > 3. Replace SlotID with SlotProfile in
> TaskExecutorGateway#requestSlot
> >> > > 4. Extend TM to support dynamic slot allocation (aka proper
> >> bookkeeping)
> >> > > (can happen concurrently to any of steps 2-3)
> >> > > 5. Add bookkeeping to SlotManager (for pending TMs and registered
> TMs)
> >> > but
> >> > > still only use default slot profiles for matching with slot requests
> >> > > 6. Allow to match slot requests with reported resources instead of
> >> > default
> >> > > slot profiles (here we could use a feature flag to switch between
> >> dynamic
> >> > > and static slot allocation)
> >> > >
> >> > > Wdyt?
> >> > >
> >> > > Cheers,
> >> > > Till
> >> > >
> >> > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 9:45 AM Andrey Zagrebin <
> azagre...@apache.org
> >> >
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Hi Xintong,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thanks for starting the vote, +1 from my side.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Best,
> >> > > > Andrey
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 4:26 PM Xintong Song <
> tonysong...@gmail.com
> >> >
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Hi all,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I would like to start the vote for FLIP-56 [1], on which a
> >> consensus
> >> > is
> >> > > > > reached in this discussion thread [2].
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > The vote will be open for at least 72 hours. I'll try to close
> it
> >> > after
> >> > > > > Sep. 20 15:00 UTC, unless there is an objection or not enough
> >> votes.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Thank you~
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Xintong Song
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > [1]
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-56%3A+Dynamic+Slot+Allocation
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > [2]
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> http://apache-flink-mailing-list-archive.1008284.n3.nabble.com/DISCUSS-FLIP-56-Dynamic-Slot-Allocation-td31960.html
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >
>

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