I would also agree with the above.

Changing a stable API and deprecating stable methods would need a FLIP in
my opinion. But then executing the removal of previously deprecated methods
would be fine in my understanding.


On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 11:17 AM Kurt Young <ykt...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the clarification, that make sense to me.
>
> Best,
> Kurt
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 4:56 PM Timo Walther <twal...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Kurt,
> >
> > I agree with Aljoscha. We don't need to introduce a big process or do
> > voting but we should ensure that all stakeholders are notified and have
> > a chance to raise doubts.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Timo
> >
> >
> > On 07.02.20 09:51, Aljoscha Krettek wrote:
> > > I would say a ML discussion or even a Jira issue is enough because
> > >
> > > a) the methods are already deprecated
> > > b) the methods are @PublicEvolving, which I don't consider a super
> > > strong guarantee to users (we still shouldn't remove them lightly, but
> > > we can if we have to...)
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Aljoscha
> > >
> > > On 07.02.20 04:40, Kurt Young wrote:
> > >> Hi dev,
> > >>
> > >> Currently I want to remove some already deprecated methods from
> > >> TableEnvironment which annotated with @PublicEnvolving. And I also
> > >> created
> > >> a discussion thread [1] to both dev and user mailing lists to gather
> > >> feedback on that. But I didn't find any matching rule in Flink bylaw
> > >> [2] to
> > >> follow. Since this is definitely a API breaking change, but we already
> > >> voted for that back in the FLIP which deprecated these methods.
> > >>
> > >> I'm not sure about how to proceed for now. Looks like I have 2
> choices:
> > >>
> > >> 1. If no one raise any objections in discuss thread in like 72 hours,
> I
> > >> will create a jira to start working on it.
> > >> 2. Since this is a API breaking change, I need to open another FLIP to
> > >> tell
> > >> that I want to remove these deprecated methods. This seems a little
> > >> redundant with the first FLIP which deprecate the methods.
> > >>
> > >> What do you think?
> > >>
> > >> Best,
> > >> Kurt
> > >>
> > >> [1]
> > >>
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r98af66feb531ce9e6b94914e44391609cad857e16ea84db5357c1980%40%3Cdev.flink.apache.org%3E
> > >>
> > >> [2] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Flink+Bylaws
> > >>
> >
> >
>

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