Thanks Robert for all this,

I think that we should also post a thread in the user ML so that users
can also comment on the topic.

What do you think?

Kostas

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 12:27 PM Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Thank you all for your feedback.
>
> I will try to fix the test then (or disable it).
>
> Here's a ticket for dropping the BucketingSink:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-16616 Please mark whatever we
> consider necessary as a "depends on" ticket.
> @David / @Seth: Where are the tickets depending on FLIP-46 listed? Can one
> of you add them to FLINK-16616
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 11:32 AM Guowei Ma <guowei....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > +1 to drop it.
> >
> > To Jingsong :
> > we are planning to implement the orc StreamingFileSink in 1.11.
> > I think users also could reference the old BucktSink from the old version.
> >
> > Best,
> > Guowei
> >
> >
> > Jingsong Li <jingsongl...@gmail.com> 于2020年3月13日周五 上午10:07写道:
> >
> > > Hi Robert,
> > >
> > > +1 to drop it but maybe not 1.11.
> > >
> > > ORC has not been supported on StreamingFileSink. I have seen lots of
> > users
> > > run ORC in the bucketing sink.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Jingsong Lee
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 1:11 AM Seth Wiesman <sjwies...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Sorry, I meant FLIP-46.
> > > >
> > > > Seth
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:52 AM Seth Wiesman <sjwies...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I agree with David, I think FLIP-49 needs to be prioritized for 1.11
> > if
> > > > we
> > > > > want to drop the bucketing sink.
> > > > >
> > > > > Seth
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 10:53 AM David Anderson <da...@ververica.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> The BucketingSink is still somewhat widely used, I think in part
> > > because
> > > > >> of
> > > > >> shortcomings in the StreamingFileSink.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I would hope that in tandem with removing the bucketing sink we
> > could
> > > > also
> > > > >> address some of these issues. I'm thinking in particular of issues
> > > that
> > > > >> are
> > > > >> waiting on FLIP-46 [1].
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Removing the bucketing sink will go down better, in my opinion, if
> > > it's
> > > > >> coupled with progress on some of the open StreamingFileSink tickets.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Best,
> > > > >> David
> > > > >>
> > > > >> [1]
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-46%3A+Graceful+Shutdown+Handling+by+UDFs
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 4:27 PM Zhijiang <
> > wangzhijiang...@aliyun.com
> > > > >> .invalid>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > Thanks for driving this discussion, Robert!
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > This e2e test really fails frequently.  +1 to drop bucketing sink,
> > > it
> > > > is
> > > > >> > not worth paying more efforts since deprecated.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Best,
> > > > >> > Zhijiang
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >> > From:Jeff Zhang <zjf...@gmail.com>
> > > > >> > Send Time:2020 Mar. 12 (Thu.) 23:17
> > > > >> > To:dev <dev@flink.apache.org>
> > > > >> > Subject:Re: [DISCUSS] Drop Bucketing Sink
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > +1, dropping deprecated api is always necessary for a sustainable
> > > > >> project.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Kostas Kloudas <kklou...@gmail.com> 于2020年3月12日周四 下午11:06写道:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > Hi Robert,
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > +1 for dropping the BucketingSink.
> > > > >> > > In any case, it has not been maintained for quite some time.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Cheers,
> > > > >> > > Kostas
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 3:41 PM Robert Metzger <
> > > rmetz...@apache.org
> > > > >
> > > > >> > > wrote:
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > Hi all,
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > I'm currently investigating a failing end to end test for the
> > > > >> bucketing
> > > > >> > > > sink [1].
> > > > >> > > > The bucketing sink has been deprecated in the 1.9 release [2],
> > > > >> because
> > > > >> > we
> > > > >> > > > have the new StreamingFileSink [3] for quite a while.
> > > > >> > > > Before putting any effort into fixing the end to end test for
> > > the
> > > > >> > sink, I
> > > > >> > > > wanted to propose dropping the bucketing sink from master for
> > > the
> > > > >> > > upcoming
> > > > >> > > > 1.11 release.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > What do you think?
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-16227
> > > > >> > > > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-13396
> > > > >> > > > [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-9749
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > --
> > > > >> > Best Regards
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Jeff Zhang
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best, Jingsong Lee
> > >
> >

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