I'm also +1 for automatically enforceable code style. I also would just go over it as Chesnay said. While it makes some changes a bit harder to track (inline git blame), it's easy to skip over in any git history and if it's only one massive commit, then it's also much easier to ignore than many gradual changes. Further, if we just do it once, git blame will quickly become more reliable again.
Btw I completely don't care about the code style as long as it plays well with IntelliJ (it used to be different, but things change :p). On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 5:23 PM Chesnay Schepler <ches...@apache.org> wrote: > We shouldn't switch to spaces _now_; cutting this bit from your proposal > will massively simplify things and there's hardly any value in changing it. > > Also I'm getting rather tired of this constant idea of "gradual > application". We've been doing this for 2-3 years now since we > introduced Checkstyle and basically got nowhere. We should just bite the > bullet and get it over with; we could've solved this whole problem already. > > In conclusion, I'm +1 on finally locking down the codestyle and applying > it immediately, I'm -1 on any gradual application scheme because they > _just don't work_. > > On 10/6/2020 2:15 PM, Aljoscha Krettek wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I know I know, but please keep reading because I recently learned > > about some new developments in the area of coding-style automation. > > > > The tool I would propose we use is Spotless > > (https://github.com/diffplug/spotless). This doesn't come with a > > formatter but allows using other popular formatters such as > > google-java-format. The nice thing about Spotless is that it serves as > > a verifier for CI but can also apply the configured style > > automatically. That is, for the programmer all she has to do is `mvn > > spotless:apply` to fix any style violations. > > > > An interesting feature, which was (somewhat) recently added is > > "ratchet" > > ( > https://github.com/diffplug/spotless/blob/main/plugin-maven/README.md#ratchet). > > > With this, you can set up Spotless to only apply it's rules to files > > that were changed after a configured commit. This would allow a > > gradual application of the new coding style instead of one big change. > > > > If we decide to use Spotless, we would of course also have to decide > > on a coding style. For this I would propose google-java-format, which > > the flink-statefun project uses. The main difference from our current > > "style" is that this uses spaces instead of tabs for indentation. By > > default it would be 2 spaces but it can be configured to use 4 spaces > > which would make code look more or less like our current style. There > > are no more configuration knobs, so using tabs is not an option. > > > > Finally, why should we do this? I think most engineers agree that > > having a common enforced style is good to have so I only want to > > highlight a few thoughts here about things we could improve: > > > > - No more nits about coding style in reviews, this makes it easier > > for both the reviewer and developer > > > > - No manual fixing of Checkstyle errors because Spotless can do that > > automatically > > > > - Because Flink is such a big project little islands of coding style > > have formed between people that commonly work on components. It can be > > a nuisance when you work on a different component and then reviewers > > don't like your typical coding style. And you first have to get used > > to the slight differences in style when reading code. > > > > There are also downsides I see in this: > > > > - We break the history, but both "git blame" and modern IntelliJ can > > ignore whitespace when attributing changes. So for files that are > > already "well" formatted not much would change. > > > > - In the short-term it will be harder to apply changes both to master > > and one of the release-x branches because formatting will be > > different. I think this is not too hard though because Spotless can > > automatically apply the style. > > > > In summary, we would have some short-term pain with this but I think > > it would be good in the long run. What are your thoughts? > > > > Best, > > Aljoscha > > > > -- Arvid Heise | Senior Java Developer <https://www.ververica.com/> Follow us @VervericaData -- Join Flink Forward <https://flink-forward.org/> - The Apache Flink Conference Stream Processing | Event Driven | Real Time -- Ververica GmbH | Invalidenstrasse 115, 10115 Berlin, Germany -- Ververica GmbH Registered at Amtsgericht Charlottenburg: HRB 158244 B Managing Directors: Timothy Alexander Steinert, Yip Park Tung Jason, Ji (Toni) Cheng